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Old 21.06.2011, 19:12
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One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

how long before it is possible to switch jobs after getting your permit? Just curious.
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Old 21.06.2011, 22:48
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

I did some checking on my own, it appears I cannot without having to go through the process of getting a B Permit again:

Changing job on restricted B-permit

I just want to know is this still the law?
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

What does the back of your Resident Permit say? If it says "selbst erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig" then you are free to have a B permit as long as you are gainfully employed. Your next employer becomes responsible for ensuring that your permit is renewed.

If you are truly on a restricted B permit which essentially means that it is tied to your employer then you need to start fresh with a new employer and they have reapply for you just like it were done for the first time. I am not sure of the specifics..sorry as the I have the unrestricted one and I just switched jobs.



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I did some checking on my own, it appears I cannot without having to go through the process of getting a B Permit again:

Changing job on restricted B-permit

I just want to know is this still the law?
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Old 22.06.2011, 20:29
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What does the back of your Resident Permit say? If it says "selbst erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig" then you are free to have a B permit as long as you are gainfully employed. Your next employer becomes responsible for ensuring that your permit is renewed.

If you are truly on a restricted B permit which essentially means that it is tied to your employer then you need to start fresh with a new employer and they have reapply for you just like it were done for the first time. I am not sure of the specifics..sorry as the I have the unrestricted one and I just switched jobs.

Yes my permit says ""selbst erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig" I will still check with the Gemeinde.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

I guess thIS ANSWERS IT:

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Since the 1st of Jan. 2008 foreign nationals who hold an annual work permit (B Permit) must no longer obtain permission to change job, profession or canton and to change from employment to self-employment. Note this applies only to permits delivered for long-term contracts, not to short-duration or job-specific (i.e. project) permits. Legal base Art. 38 AuG / LEtr
Non-EU Permits - a few bullet points.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

Not to discourage you, but even if you have a long-term opened ended contract, it does not mean that your permit is a long-term/non-restricted B as the one you posted.

The way it works for non-EU is that:
If you have a limited duration contract, then your permit will be limited/restricted.
If you have an open/non-restricted B permit, then you must have an open-ended contract.

None of the other "if-then" ways work. Hope this helps.
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What does the back of your Resident Permit say? If it says "selbst erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig" then you are free to have a B permit as long as you are gainfully employed. Your next employer becomes responsible for ensuring that your permit is renewed.
Just to warm people that this is no longer the case with the new plastic/credit card format permit!

On the plastic/credit card format permit, there is NO WAY for you to know whether your permit is restricted or not. It will say "selbst erwerbstatigkeit ist bewilligungspflichtig" regardless. It is true that in the old days with the large paper permit, that you can tell whether one is restricted or not, but on the new permit, there is no way.

You will have to call to find out and they'll only tell you if you happen to talk to someone nice.

Otherwise, there should be a document that was sent to your employer along with your permit approval notification. In that document, you can tell whether the permit is restricted or not.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

Just and update, there are no restrictions, called the auslaenderamt at the Gemeinde.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

I felt I should give this information. At first the Gemeinde told me there were no restrictions, but they said I could not change jobs in the first year. They said "it is impossible".

However my new employer contacted them, then I contacted them again...told them I was willing to quit my current position and take a chance on getting a new permit (out of the quota) sponsored by the new company.

They then transfered me to someone else who asked me why I wanted to change jobs.

I gave him specific reasons by e-mail and a copy of the contract I signed with the new company. The reasons were:

1) Continuity of my career path - job is closer to what I've been doing for almost a decade

2) Salary - significantly higher, in line with market

3) Location - closer to home

4) Nationality of Company - closer to the business culture I'm used to
5) Job Expectations are Changing

6) I am still on my Probezeit - should have the right to change in 90 days, without pentalty, if the company also has the right to get rid of me in 90 days with only a week notice.


The Gemeinde accepted this logic and aggreed to allow me to transfer my current permit, without having my new employer apply for a new one.

This is all in Zug Kanton.

Sweet.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

That's great news! Thanks for the update and good going.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

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I felt I should give this information. At first the Gemeinde told me there were no restrictions, but they said I could not change jobs in the first year. They said "it is impossible".

However my new employer contacted them, then I contacted them again...told them I was willing to quit my current position and take a chance on getting a new permit (out of the quota) sponsored by the new company.

They then transfered me to someone else who asked me why I wanted to change jobs.

I gave him specific reasons by e-mail and a copy of the contract I signed with the new company. The reasons were:

1) Continuity of my career path - job is closer to what I've been doing for almost a decade

2) Salary - significantly higher, in line with market

3) Location - closer to home

4) Nationality of Company - closer to the business culture I'm used to
5) Job Expectations are Changing

6) I am still on my Probezeit - should have the right to change in 90 days, without pentalty, if the company also has the right to get rid of me in 90 days with only a week notice.


The Gemeinde accepted this logic and aggreed to allow me to transfer my current permit, without having my new employer apply for a new one.

This is all in Zug Kanton.

Sweet.
Provided your B Permit is not restricted to any particular employer (not short-term or project-related), you can in theory switch jobs immediately upon receiving the Permit (I switched jobs on a non-EU unrestricted B Permit last year, although I've been in CH for a few years already; process was very simple, there were no questions asked as to why I wanted to switch).

However, Switzerland is a very small job market; people know each other and word (references) can spread easily. I'm quite sure the company that brought you on board initially won't be too happy to see you leave during your probation period when they had to fork out god knows how much cash and pull god knows how many strings to get you a non-EU open B Permit upon arrival (which is a very tough thing to do, most non-EU I know on unlimited contracts arrive on restricted B Permits or temporary L Permits). Sure you can hide them from your CV or toss the Arbeitszeugnis they will end up giving you after only a few weeks of work with them, however, Zug is very very small.
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Re: One Year B Work Permit - switch Jobs

So I should not take a 20% raise and better benefits because of potential gossip?
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