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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Hi there,

Thanks for the very informative post, I have just spent a few hours reading through it. I have just one question...

How many '3 month tourist periods' can you do before registering for a job seeking 3-month permit? For example, if you do one 3 month period where you job seek as a 'tourist' but don't find anything (playing the aforementioned vacation card), you then decide to leave the country rather than register for the 3-month 'job seeking' permit (due to not having the finances for health insurance). How many times could you repeat this i.e. is there a limit on days as a tourist per year?

From what i've read this approach is bending not breaking the rules.

Many Thanks in advance.
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Old 16.11.2017, 17:10
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Well, according to your post here

https://www.englishforum.ch/introduc...-hi-there.html

you've been living here since September 2016 so should definitely have registered as being a resident.

And yes you are bending the rules a lot. The rule is 90 days per year as a tourist in a Schengen country, even for EU nationals. So you could do 90 days in Switzerland, then 90 days in Germany, then 90 days in France, then 90 days in Italy, then a few days in Spain before coming back to Switzerland again. That's the way it's supposed to work. Not 90 days in Switzerland, leave for a few days and then come back again.

So the answer to your question is one 3 month period. After that you should register as being resident - or go back to your home country. Since you're way over your allowed time I would do the latter. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but if you can't afford the health insurance, then you can't afford to be here job hunting either - certainly not for as long as you say you've been here.

As said in my previous post, after registering as being resident you have up to 3 months to arrange health insurance cover. Since the limit now for EU nationals to be in Switzerland to job hunt is 6 months (3 months tourist, 3 months on L permit) leaving arranging health insurance until the 3 months is nearly up can be done and gives you the option of not doing it if no job prospect is on the horizon.
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Well, according to your post here

https://www.englishforum.ch/introduc...-hi-there.html

you've been living here since September 2016 so should definitely have registered as being a resident.

And yes you are bending the rules a lot. The rule is 90 days per year as a tourist in a Schengen country, even for EU nationals.
It is 90 days in any given 180 days period.
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Thanks for your quick and conscise reply.

Informal legal advice told me that it was bending not breaking and frankly I did not expect to need as many 3 month periods as I have done. I do live with my boyfriend here hence the reluctance to leave and resolve to stay.

If I were to stay and apply for residence, according to you I have 3 months to apply for health insurance from that date (?) but is it not backdated to the date of my residence application?

I assume your advice is to return to the UK and continue the search from there, then, return to CH when I have a job contract?

Would a Swiss civil partnership help in this circumstance?
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

It is for non-EUs, couldn't find anything definitive for EU nationals. Just that 90 days maximum as a tourist before you have to register as being a resident of wherever.
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Thanks for your quick and conscise reply.

Informal legal advice told me that it was bending not breaking and frankly I did not expect to need as many 3 month periods as I have done. I do live with my boyfriend here hence the reluctance to leave and resolve to stay.

If I were to stay and apply for residence, according to you I have 3 months to apply for health insurance from that date (?) but is it not backdated to the date of my residence application?

I assume your advice is to return to the UK and continue the search from there, then, return to CH when I have a job contract?

Would a Swiss civil partnership help in this circumstance?
Yes, insurance is backdated to the date you register as being resident. So you do have the risk that if you find a job very late on you'll get a big first invoice for the insurance.

Yes again, a same sex registered partnership would give you a family reunification permit just as it does for married couples. But your partner will have to show they can afford to support you both financially if they are not working and that the accommodation is big enough for both of you.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...nnachzug-e.pdf
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Hello,

I am an EU citizen coming from Hungary. I had an L permit because I had a fixed term job with my company but now my company considering to hire me on indefinite time.

Today my boss told me that they might not get a permit.

I am a bit confused. I thought if I have a contract and am an EU citizen I would get a permit... or do they have to go through the explanation procedure of why the company needs me? And they can be denied?

I was trying to find some further explanation on the Federal Council's site but couldn't find detailed explanation just the generic Agreement of Free Movement thing.

So, it could happen that they apply and they get rejected and I have to leave?

Can i extend my L-permit if I dont get a B to stay with my company?
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Old 19.01.2018, 19:49
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Hello,

I am an EU citizen coming from Hungary. I had an L permit because I had a fixed term job with my company but now my company considering to hire me on indefinite time.

Today my boss told me that they might not get a permit.
Perhaps they mean they can't guarantee a B permit (valid 5 years) instead of another L? Since you're an EU citizen they don't need to go through the non-EU hiring process so the idea they might not get a permit at all doesn't make any sense.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but since Lulu is EU, he/she applies for the permit, not the employer. The type of permit granted is based on the length of the contract, etc.
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Your company is wrong. EU nationals only have to take their signed employment contract to their gemeinde admin office to get their permit. The company has nothing to do with it. If it's an indefinite contract you will get a B permit.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...fenthalt-e.pdf
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Thanks,

And what should I do if I received the "Verfallsanzeigen" but I still don't have the contract from my company?

They told me they will deliver it to me soon. But I only have 14 days to go to the kreis?

Should I go in and ask for additional time? Is that a possibility?

Thanks again.
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Old 29.01.2018, 19:36
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

You could tell them you're waiting for the new contract to be given to you. When does your current permit expire?

And tell your employers to get their fingers out. It can't take that long to produce a new contract.
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Hello,

I have just received my permit and the bill, and have a silly question on how to pay the 66 chf invoice as there is not much instruction in it...

I was told I could go to any post office and pay there directly. Is this correct?

I can see bank info on the invoice, so I could eventually do a wire through e-banking as well with the reference number?

In both case, do I need to keep the bottom parts of the invoice (https://ibb.co/dF4Xtn) and sent it somewhere to prove I have paid?

Thank you!
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

You can pay by ebanking, using the data on the orange pay slip. Make sure you add the reference number!

Thatīs all
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Yes, take the payment slip to any post office and you can pay. Keep the stub on the lefthand side, they should give that back to you after they stamp it. They keep the larger righthand part of the slip for their records.

It can also be paid via e-banking with your bank.
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Re: EU Permits - A few bullet points

Thank you both for your answers!
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