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Old 21.07.2011, 18:02
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American moving to Geneva w/ French bfriend..visa? help? any advice helps!

I am an American national living in France with my French national boyfriend. I have been illegal since April. I came to Spain for 3 months, where I taught English and took Spanish classes...tips, adviceneedless to say, my toursit visa is a wee bit expired. However, my boyfriend and I will be moving to Geneva the last week in August, as he starts his 2 year contract job at CERN. I have spoken with so many people in regards to visas that my head is spinning not unlike Reagan, from The Exorcist. A lady at the Swiss embassy in France, told me I could apply for a 'familial visa' even though we are not married. This just doesn't seem true. We will be living there for 2 years, and I just need to know what type of visa to apply for. Must I return to the states to get this taken care of? May I do so from here? Residence visa, long term visa...que horror...everyone I speak with at embassies, including US embassy, seems to never have any useful info to tell me and then says "look at our website, everything is there." Well, if everything was there, I wouldn't be feeling like Reagan right now. Any tips, advice, insults, etc..would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for rambling. Thanks! Suzanne from Texas
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Old 21.07.2011, 22:07
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It's going to be impossible until u legalise ur status in some way. Even then it's hard since CH isn't keen on unmarrieds unless u have a long provable history, I think I read seven years.....

I think u need to go home and start again, sorry...
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Old 21.07.2011, 22:48
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I am an American national living in France with my French national boyfriend. I have been illegal since April. I came to Spain for 3 months, where I taught English and took Spanish classes...tips, adviceneedless to say, my toursit visa is a wee bit expired. However, my boyfriend and I will be moving to Geneva the last week in August, as he starts his 2 year contract job at CERN. I have spoken with so many people in regards to visas that my head is spinning not unlike Reagan, from The Exorcist. A lady at the Swiss embassy in France, told me I could apply for a 'familial visa' even though we are not married. This just doesn't seem true. We will be living there for 2 years, and I just need to know what type of visa to apply for. Must I return to the states to get this taken care of? May I do so from here? Residence visa, long term visa...que horror...everyone I speak with at embassies, including US embassy, seems to never have any useful info to tell me and then says "look at our website, everything is there." Well, if everything was there, I wouldn't be feeling like Reagan right now. Any tips, advice, insults, etc..would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for rambling. Thanks! Suzanne from Texas
Hi Suzanne,
I assume that you don't have an actual visa, right? Just here on the 90 day visa waiver thing? Or did you have a visa for Spain?

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Blimey - where does one begin?

IIUC...

Your time in Spain would have been covered by a 90-day tourist visa or visa waiver. Right up to the point where you broke the visa/waiver conditions by working. At that point you were already illegal. But you didn't get caught, so so far so good.

Then you stayed on beyond the validity period of said visa/waver. You were now definitely in Spain illegally. And then in France. And anywhere else in the Schengen Area. Including Switzerland.

So to today. You are currently logged in the SIS (Schengen Information System) that all Schengen Area countries share and refer to for all movements in and out of the area, as "overdue". The first time this system is referred to by any immigration or border staff, up you'll pop. Out you'll go. Big stamp on passport. Big ban on SIS. Might still be welcome in Uk and Ireland but I wouldn't count on it.


On the (relatively) positive side, you can appeal to have the ban removed. All you need is a credible reason as to how this all came about. I genuinely wish you good luck with that.
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I am an American national living in France with my French national boyfriend. I have been illegal since April. I came to Spain for 3 months, where I taught English and took Spanish classes...tips, adviceneedless to say, my toursit visa is a wee bit expired. However, my boyfriend and I will be moving to Geneva the last week in August, as he starts his 2 year contract job at CERN. I have spoken with so many people in regards to visas that my head is spinning not unlike Reagan, from The Exorcist. A lady at the Swiss embassy in France, told me I could apply for a 'familial visa' even though we are not married. This just doesn't seem true. We will be living there for 2 years, and I just need to know what type of visa to apply for. Must I return to the states to get this taken care of? May I do so from here? Residence visa, long term visa...que horror...everyone I speak with at embassies, including US embassy, seems to never have any useful info to tell me and then says "look at our website, everything is there." Well, if everything was there, I wouldn't be feeling like Reagan right now. Any tips, advice, insults, etc..would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for rambling. Thanks! Suzanne from Texas
You will need a non-EU residency/work permit from the Canton of Geneva for the duration of those two years, which will be extremely tricky to get given the fact that:

1) you are currently illegal in the Schengen zone (which Switzerland is a member of)

2) you are not an EU/EFTA citizen

Best solution would be to marry your boyfriend, you would get a dependent Swiss B Permit.
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Re: American moving to Geneva w/ French bfriend..visa? help? any advice helps!

You may also look into the whole student visa route as well. Language training is a good choice if there isn't something that stands out more obviously to you.
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To regularize your situation long term, you could apply for an unmarried partner's visa but you would have to make the application from outside Switzerland.
See the second paragraph of this link:

http://www.swissemigration.ch/themen...x.html?lang=en
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To regularize your situation long term, you could apply for an unmarried partner's visa but you would have to make the application from outside Switzerland.
See the second paragraph of this link:

http://www.swissemigration.ch/themen...x.html?lang=en
FYI I tried the above mentioned route with my US girlfriend and we ticked all of the boxes (proof long term relationship, good job good salary etc.) but our application was still denied, so beware. Its not an automatic given that you will receive a permit based on unmarried couples.
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FYI I tried the above mentioned route with my US girlfriend and we ticked all of the boxes (proof long term relationship, good job good salary etc.) but our application was still denied, so beware. Its not an automatic given that you will receive a permit based on unmarried couples.
Correct. There's a lot of info the forum about this eg:

Séjour concubin (dependent) permit refused

Dependent Visa for Girlfriend of EU B Permit Holder
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