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Old 26.08.2011, 18:22
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Teens and B Permit

I just received my B permit today, along with permits for my three children. I am wondering at what age it is advisable to have teenagers carry their permit with them daily, as well as the reasons and situations in which they might possibly be asked for them.

Is it advisable that I carry a younger child's permit along with my own at all times, or can I safely leave it at home and carry only my own when we are traveling within Switzerland?
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Old 26.08.2011, 18:26
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I just received my B permit today, along with permits for my three children. I am wondering at what age it is advisable to have teenagers carry their permit with them daily, as well as the reasons and situations in which they might possibly be asked for them.
a) Always.

b) For any reason at all, no reason is actually needed.

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Old 26.08.2011, 18:32
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Re: Teens and B Permit

I carry my (4) children's permit Bs when we go on train rides or bus rides together, as this is a time we've been asked to show them, or any time we might go visit any governmental establishment.

Otherwise, I leave them at home. My teenage son should arguably carry his when he takes the public bus to school each day, but he's already left his itouch in his pocket when swimming in the lake. I'd rather risk his getting scolded than have it sink to the bottom of Lac Leman.
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Re: Teens and B Permit

I grew up a military brat, we had to carry our dependent IDs with us from age 10 onward - I fail to see any reason why a similar act of responsibility could not be invoked upon kids for their permits.

Yes, they probably will go through the wash a time or two, yes, they will be forgotten someplace a time or two also BUT this will help them get in the habit of carrying identification for later, such as when they need to carry proof of abo for train / tram, and driver's licenses if / when the time comes. Sure it's a bit of a hassle to get them replaced but having to go through it will help them remember how important it is to carry and treat responsibly.

I've read / heard the same thing that Tom says, that anyone anytime can be asked for ID for any reason. Even though for "normal" Americans that's probably a strange idea, for me, because of my military upbringing, it's par for the course.
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Re: Teens and B Permit

Where would, and why might, someone in Switzerland ask a young teenager for their permit B, anyway?
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Where would, and why might, someone in Switzerland ask a young teenager for their permit B, anyway?
The most frequent time I've seen anyone asked for ID was if they appeared to be "fare dodging" on the tram - whether they'd forgotten their abo thingie, forgot to buy a ticket, whatever reason, they didn't have something valid with them, I saw them need to produce local ID.


The times I needed my ID growing up were different to what's needed here in some ways as we had to show that we were allowed on base if we'd gone off, we had to show proof of age for movies and we had to show ID to be able to purchase things at the Exchange or Commissary. Something that is the same here though is also doctor / hospital visits. Along with my ID (permit here) I carry my health insurance card, just in case, that way, if something drastic happens, people know who I am and who to contact.

Drinking age is different here than some other places, only need to be 14 to buy "alcopops" (wine coolers or maybe even those smirnoff ice things? I'm not much of a drinker so not sure what qualifies). I'm sure ID is needed for things like that and cigarettes and such as well, even some machines require ID swipe.
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Re: Teens and B Permit

You also need it to cross the border, which is of course not an issue for some, but my kids have been going to Italy by themselves since they were 10 or so.

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Re: Teens and B Permit

I carry my permit but have not once in 10 years been asked to show it on demand. The only time I use it is if I have to go to the post office to pick up a parcel or once when I was re-entering Switzerland from the UK, along with my passport.

Of course I need to show it if I go to a local or city council office for whatever reason but nobody has ever approached me randomly on the street and asked to see it.

I'm in two minds' whether to leave it at home from now on for fear of losing the damn thing but Sod's Law would state I would have to show it on the day I leave it at home.
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