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Permit Problems

Hello all, this is my first time here in this forum and I would like to ask some questions regarding permit problems in switzerland.
I am an Indonesian who is currently studying in Switzerland, and lately me and my friends run into some troubles with the police. We were driving late from vevey to Montreux and two policemen stopped us in the middle of the street to ask for some IDs. Unfortunately, none of us brought our B permit, and there were 6 of us (I know it is our fault to get 6 people into one car ), so the policemen were giving us fine about CHF 450 for putting 6 people into one car and forgetting to bring our B permit.
We tried to explain the situations and told them to call the school but they refused it and kept demanding the fine to be paid. We had not much choice so we gave them the money.
The question is, do we really need to pay some fine if we forget to bring our B permit with us? We have been living here for 3 years and we never run into any of this before. Thank you for the answer!
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The question is, do we really need to pay some fine if we forget to bring our B permit with us? We have been living here for 3 years and we never run into any of this before. Thank you for the answer!
The answer is yes. It is not an offense that is usually enforced, however if you are caught in violation of traffic rules, any administrative offenses (most notably forgetting to change the address on your driving licence following your move) will be added up.

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told them to call the school
Would that be a school that produces "international, well-cultured and well-rounded individuals" perchance?
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Hello all, this is my first time here in this forum and I would like to ask some questions regarding permit problems in switzerland.
I am an Indonesian who is currently studying in Switzerland, and lately me and my friends run into some troubles with the police. We were driving late from vevey to Montreux and two policemen stopped us in the middle of the street to ask for some IDs. Unfortunately, none of us brought our B permit, and there were 6 of us (I know it is our fault to get 6 people into one car ), so the policemen were giving us fine about CHF 450 for putting 6 people into one car and forgetting to bring our B permit.
We tried to explain the situations and told them to call the school but they refused it and kept demanding the fine to be paid. We had not much choice so we gave them the money.
The question is, do we really need to pay some fine if we forget to bring our B permit with us? We have been living here for 3 years and we never run into any of this before. Thank you for the answer!
I hope you got a receipt for the fine

And yes you must have id
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Old 19.09.2007, 10:05
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I hope you got a receipt for the fine

And yes you must have id
Do I as a furner have to carry my Ausländerausweis with me at all times - or is it sufficient to carry my national (in my case German) ID?
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Do I as a furner have to carry my Ausländerausweis with me at all times - or is it sufficient to carry my national (in my case German) ID?
Just for clarity here. It is not an offence not to carry your aliens permit at all times. ie not having your B permit is not something you can be fined for. However... you must be able to produce some form of recognised identification immediately upon request. This means immediately and not let me quickly go home and get it.

Recognised forms of ID for this purpose are restricted to:
Aliens Permit
Passport
National Identity card
Swiss Driving License.

And that is it. A GA (SBB rail pass) is not a form of identification unless you are on the railway.

If you cannot produce one of these forms of identification upon request, the police have the right (very rarely used, if ever) to actually arrest you until they can establish your identity. ie they would only ever do this if you were a pain and refused to answer their questions such as what is your name and where do you live/are staying
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Aww, such a pain. Anyway, thanks a lot for the answers! I will try to avoid the same mistakes in the future
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