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Non-EU B visa-- what are the quota exceptions?

Hi all,

I have a job offer in Geneva. I am a US citizen, married to an EU citizen who will work outside of Switzerland. Since we are just moving to Europe and thus cannot comply with the 6 month frontalier rule, I think I have to get a B permit and live in Switzerland. I have a few questions:

1) I have a specialized degree and the offer is for a specialized job. I am having trouble figuring out whether the visa process will be a snap (what the employer seems to think) or impossible (what another employer for the same type of job thought). What kinds of jobs qualify for the quota exceptions? What kinds of time delays should I be expecting?

2) The contract is for Geneva, but we would prefer to live in Vaud for cost and quality of life reasons. Are there going to be extra complications if I get the residency permit in a different canton from where I will be working? What should I be aware of?

3) What kind of visa/residence permit will my spouse need? He needs to reside in Switzerland but not necessarily work there. Will his permit be tied to mine? Will my employer take care of that?

3) Am I missing anything on the frontalier rules? Is there anyway we can get around them?

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Old 10.09.2011, 21:47
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Re: Non-EU B visa-- what are the quota exceptions?

In answer to your question #1, if you apply as a Non-EU/Non-UK citizen then your employer has to prove that they cannot find anyone in Switzerland or the EU to do the job.

Quotas do apply, but I believe that 2008/2009 was the only time (and it was only for about half a year) that the quotas were exhausted - otherwise it's a case of simply proving that you fulfil the criteria - the 'bar' is raised pretty high, but if your employer is confident, then it takes a maximum of about 12 weeks from the time that they actually submit the application with the local authorities, to when the work permit is approved...

If your spouse is EU/UK then they can arrive and register in person at the local Gemeinde. Living in a different Gemeinde to where you work I believe is not a problem. Registration for an EU/UK is very easy, but they usually ask for a work contract and lease document to do this...not sure what they will say if you turn up and say you are working outside Switzerland...

It sounds pretty strange to live in Switzerland and work outside, but there are plenty of people I know who do it, so it musn't be too complicated...
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Re: Non-EU B visa-- what are the quota exceptions?

I know it sounds strange to live in Switzerland and work in an EU country! We wouldn't do it if there was any other way. I don't qualify for a G frontalier permit even though my husband is an EU citizen-- it sounds totally crazy to me, but it appears to be the case.

It also gives me pause to think about living and working in a country that seemingly doesn't want us and can choose to not renew the permits anytime . . .
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Re: Non-EU B visa-- what are the quota exceptions?

So, you are both currently living in the USA, your husband has a job offer in another european country, and you have an offer in Switzerland, but you were both thinking of taking up residence in Switzerland ?

In that case, the best place to ask your question would be the swiss consulate general in your *husbands* home country - you haven't said what that is, but they will be best able to advise him on the simplified procedure under the Shengen agreement.

A frontalier permit is useful only if you live outside the country but work within it, so I'm not sure why you are pursuing that option if you were planning to live in Switzerland ? That's a bit confusing to me ....so which way do you want to do it ? Live outside and work in Switzerland, or live in Switzerland and have your husband work outside - two very different requests...
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Re: Non-EU B visa-- what are the quota exceptions?

We would very much like to live outside of Switzerland and have me commute into Switzerland. However, we are under the impression that this is impossible due to the restrictions on the Swiss G permit (the permit that would allow me to live outside of Switzerland and commute in for work). My understanding is that the G permit is only for EU citizens (which I am not) or for non-EU citizens who have lived more than 6 months in the "frontalier zone," which is a highly restricted zone immediately at the border of Switzerland. Hence the questions about the B permit-- if I take this job, it looks like living in Switzerland on a B permit is the only option!

Please let me know if I am wrong about the G permit being impossible! The idea of contacting the Swiss consulate in his home country is a good one, even if just for a second opinion. I am excited about the job opportunity, but I am frankly quite intimidated by living in Switzerland and by the Swiss imigration bureaucracy.
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Re: Non-EU B visa-- what are the quota exceptions?

So, I'm guessing your husband is French, then ?

I can't imagine French immigration and beaurocracy is any more complex than the swiss one

The Swiss consulate general in your husband's home country should actually be your first and best source of information, other than the official website:

http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/fr/home/...ra/regfra.html
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I don't qualify for a G frontalier permit even though my husband is an EU citizen-- it sounds totally crazy to me, but it appears to be the case.
It is not the case. Living in the border zone and working in Switzerland is open to all.
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It is not the case. Living in the border zone and working in Switzerland is open to all.
Hi Swissbob, would you mind elaborating on what you mean by that? Is there a way for me to qualify for the G permit that I have not thought of?
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Hi Swissbob, would you mind elaborating on what you mean by that? Is there a way for me to qualify for the G permit that I have not thought of?
If you are resident in the border zone then you can get your employer to apply for a cross border permit.
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