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Visa required for South Africans living in Belgium with Belgium ID card

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I have South African friends , living in Belgium, that have Belgium ID cards and South African passports. According to the Swiss Embassy, they need a Schengen Visa to enter Switzerland. I was just wondering if this applied to People entering from South Africa, or whether they could travel / visit Switzerland on their Belgium ID's ?

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Re: Visa required for South Africans living in Belgium with Belgium ID card

Do they have residence permits from Belgium? If so then they do not need a visa, I came here with my Dutch residence permit and that was no problem. What kind of ID are you referring to?
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Re: Visa required for South Africans living in Belgium with Belgium ID card

my system says the following:

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National South Africa (ZA) /Residence Belgium (BE)
Embarkation Belgium (BE) /Destination Switzerland (CH)
Visited Belgium (BE)


Switzerland (CH)



Passport required.
- Passport and/or passport replacing documents must be valid
on arrival.

Visa required, except for Those, irrespective of nationality,

holding a Residence Permit issued by Belgium for a max. stay
of 3 months.
Visa required, except for A stay of max. 3 months in a 6 month
period, holders of a long stay national Type D visa issued by

Belgium.
Minors:
- Pupils For details, click here
Additional Information:

- Valid visas in full, expired or invalidated passports or
travel documents may be accepted, provided accompanied by
the new passport or travel document issued by the same
authority.
- All passengers entering Switzerland on a one-way ticket

For details, click here
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.

- Geneva airport (GVA) is located by convention in

Switzerland. For details, click here
- If final destination is France For details, click here
- At Basle/Mulhouse/Freiburg (BSL), For details, click here
Warning:
- Visitors not holding return/onward ticket could be refused

entry.
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Hi,

I have South African friends , living in Belgium, that have Belgium ID cards and South African passports. According to the Swiss Embassy, they need a Schengen Visa to enter Switzerland. I was just wondering if this applied to People entering from South Africa, or whether they could travel / visit Switzerland on their Belgium ID's ?

All answers gratefully received.

Hatters.
I'm assuming by this you mean a Carte de sejour. If so then it is not a valid travel document and your friends will need their South African passports too.(they should have both of them with them)

If they have a valid Belgian carte de sejour then that should entitle them to visit Switzerland for up to 3 months.

My South African friend visited from Belgium last year and she didn't need a visa.

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Old 11.09.2011, 18:30
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Hi,

I have South African friends , living in Belgium, that have Belgium ID cards and South African passports. According to the Swiss Embassy, they need a Schengen Visa to enter Switzerland. I was just wondering if this applied to People entering from South Africa, or whether they could travel / visit Switzerland on their Belgium ID's ?

All answers gratefully received.

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Think about it. Why would they need a Schengen visa when they are already in the Schengen area?
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Think about it. Why would they need a Schengen visa when they are already in the Schengen area?
That's what it says on the web site...

http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/...af/entreq.html

South African nationals require a Schengen visa to enter Switzerland.
South African nationals travelling on a diplomatic, service or official South African passport do not need a visa to enter Switzerland as of 1 September 2010.
UN Laissez-Passer holders do not need a visa to enter Switzerland.
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Old 11.09.2011, 18:48
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That's what it says on the web site...

http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/...af/entreq.html

South African nationals require a Schengen visa to enter Switzerland.
South African nationals travelling on a diplomatic, service or official South African passport do not need a visa to enter Switzerland as of 1 September 2010.
UN Laissez-Passer holders do not need a visa to enter Switzerland.
That's if Switzerland is the entry point. They are already legally in the Schengen region. There are no border controls between Shengen states. Ergo ......
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That's if Switzerland is the entry point. They are already legally in the Schengen region. There are no border controls between Shengen states. Ergo ......
That's exactly it. If they entered Schengen via another country they don't need anything more to travel to Switzerland.

I double checked with my friend and this is exactly what she was told and she had no problems coming here. She was advised to bring both passport and ID card with her though as proof of her residence in Belgium.

Although there are technically no border controls you do have to show some form of ID at check in at Brussels airport. The Belgian ID or South African passport will both be OK for this.
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