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urgent inquiry about Non-EU Marriage to swiss national

Dear All,
I need an urgent advice and recommendation please. I really like how you guys responde and help each other to threads here much appreciated.
My story in short, I am non-EU citizen my girlfriend is a swiss national we have been dating more than 2 years. We have decided to get married and settle down in Switzerland, Currently i am doing an internship in Italy holding a Schengen visa valid untill 20th September, i was supposed to renew my internship here for another 6 months and got like a receipt of appointment with authorities for the renewal on 11/11. unfortunately a new law just came out last week preventing the renwal of internships. so what i am left out with is 1 week of my schengen visa, and that receipt of appointment on 11/11 which allows me to stay in italy untill that date in the case there is any change in the law.
so what would be the easiest and fastest way to do the marriage now?
If i do it in switzerland(one of the documents required there is valid residence visa, mine is expiring in 1 week, will that receipt which i have from authorities in italy be accepted as legal document??
Or in Italy in the swiss embassy (they told me it takes up to 2 months to check on the documents) by that time my visa would have expired here will i be able to go to switzerland then??
I heared also its possible to do a quick marriage in Denmark in which you can have marriage certificate is that recognized in switzerland??

Sorry for writting so much, i really appreciate your recommendations. and please mind any spelling errors dont have time to correct them
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Old 13.09.2011, 13:15
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Gretna Green, under Scottish law, http://maps.google.co.uk Search for Gretna Green, DG16 5DY, UK

Any two people can marry in Scotland, as long as they . .
* Are both over 16 years old
* Are capable of understanding the ceremony & consenting
* Are not already married!
* Have two witnesses, also over the age of 16
* you need your Birth Certificates or an official copy (ie. one made by a registration office)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretna_Green

http://www.gretnaonline.net/MiniWeb....62&openid=2262

But wouldn't it be better to go home and make the application via the Swiss Embassy? Then come back and marry her here. It would look more respectful, as at the moment your description looks as though you are looking for a way to stay here, i.e. a marriage of convenience.

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Old 13.09.2011, 13:31
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Indeed you can apply for a permit based on your intention to come here, get married and become resident.

Your girlfriend should apply at her local commune for this and yes, you will most likely have to be a) outside Switzerland and b) outside Schengen when this permit is issued.

My advice is to let her take the lead. It's not expensive to get married here as all marriages are done at the local town hall.

HTH and good luck!
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Old 13.09.2011, 13:36
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Re: urgent inquiry about Non-EU Marriage to swiss national

you can make a nice holiday to gretna green as suggested.

but also, have you considered whether all these challenges is a message from god telling you that you shouldn't get married?
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I agree. Quick trip to Scotland is in order. It'll be fun & romantic!
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Re: urgent inquiry about Non-EU Marriage to swiss national

Thanks a lot guys for advices!!
one thing to ask lets say i did the marriage out of switzerland in scotland or any other place and i got the marriage certificate? what would be the next step to enter legally to switzterland?
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Old 14.09.2011, 16:24
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Thanks a lot guys for advices!!
one thing to ask lets say i did the marriage out of switzerland in scotland or any other place and i got the marriage certificate? what would be the next step to enter legally to switzterland?
Your Swiss girlfriend is ideally situated to answer that.
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But wouldn't it be better to go home and make the application via the Swiss Embassy? Then come back and marry her here. It would look more respectful, as at the moment your description looks as though you are looking for a way to stay here, i.e. a marriage of convenience.
I would agree. Also the family of you both may wish to celebrate in your marriage.
Remember its easy to race into marriage but not so easy to race out.
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Re: urgent inquiry about Non-EU Marriage to swiss national

I disagree with Ittigen & EarMe. Eloping is fabulously romantic & fun. And so much less hassle and less expensive than planing a whole big thing with parents involved. Yikes! No thank you! Then when the visit the family they can have a party.

But I agree with SwissBob. Your fiancee should call the commune that she is living in and they will be able to tell her what to do.

Good luck!
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Whilst I fully agree that a trip to Bonnie Scotland is always highly recommended, I'd just to mention a few things that might help take Gretna (and indeed the rest of Scotland) out of the "just like Vegas" picture that seems to be in some people's minds:

  • There is a minimum of 15 days between submitting full (i.e. "all present and correct") required documentation and fees, and being able to marry.
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    Although you need not both attend personally at the registrar's office to hand in your marriage notice, at least one of you may be asked to attend there personally before the date of the marriage. This is necessary, in the case of a religious marriage (which includes other belief systems), to collect the Marriage Schedule (see page 3) or, it might be necessary in the case of a civil marriage, to finalise arrangements with the registrar.

On the plus side, here's a nice picture of some Cuddly Coos

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Re: urgent inquiry about Non-EU Marriage to swiss national

Aw well, it was a lovely dream while it lasted!

We have those cuddly coos (and shetland ponies!) in my village in Vaud! I (heart) them!!!

Sigh. I wanna go home! whaaaaaa. Ok, I feel better now.
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Aw well, it was a lovely dream while it lasted!

We have those cuddly coos (and shetland ponies!) in my village in Vaud! I (heart) them!!!

Sigh. I wanna go home! whaaaaaa. Ok, I feel better now.
Sure .

I know what you get up to down there....

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Sure .

I know what you get up to down there....

Ah, Tinned Typhoid - nothing to beat it
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Having lived near Gretna I can confirm it is a shithole. Gretna is where u do the legal marriage. Gretna Green is where you do the pretty village marriage over the anvil. Not a legal marriage only te Gretna one counts. Not very romantic.

Also as others have pointed out u would need a marriage visit visa to UK and post banns etc, so it's a non starter really.

Gretna is chavsville really!
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