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Reporting Birth Abroad for U.S. please help!!!

I am a U.S. citizen and my boyfriend is Swiss and we live in Bern. Our daughter was born in August and I'm trying to put together our pack of information for the Report of Birth Abroad. I have to prove I lived in the U.S. for one year without leaving the country.

I asked if I could use a passport and the migration office rep on the phone said no because until recently I could have gone to Mexico or Canada without a passport. She said W2's only works for married couples. She said I could use school transcripts if I went all year long, which I haven't. (I don't understand how transcripts show I was in the country non-stop. Couldn't I have gone on vacation to Mexico and still completed my courses? Anyway ...)

It doesn't make any sense to me, but has anyone else been in this situation? What documents were you successful with? I am so sad to think this could delay our travel plans of introducing our baby girl to family back home at Christmas time.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 20.09.2011, 20:11
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I am a U.S. citizen and my boyfriend is Swiss and we live in Bern. Our daughter was born in August and I'm trying to put together our pack of information for the Report of Birth Abroad. I have to prove I lived in the U.S. for one year without leaving the country.

I asked if I could use a passport and the migration office rep on the phone said no because until recently I could have gone to Mexico or Canada without a passport. She said W2's only works for married couples. She said I could use school transcripts if I went all year long, which I haven't. (I don't understand how transcripts show I was in the country non-stop. Couldn't I have gone on vacation to Mexico and still completed my courses? Anyway ...)

It doesn't make any sense to me, but has anyone else been in this situation? What documents were you successful with? I am so sad to think this could delay our travel plans of introducing our baby girl to family back home at Christmas time.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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just get a Swiss passport for the baby, job done. They have lovely lay-down photo booths and the passport is ready in 10 days and costs relatively little.

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Old 20.09.2011, 21:13
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I am a U.S. citizen and my boyfriend is Swiss and we live in Bern. Our daughter was born in August and I'm trying to put together our pack of information for the Report of Birth Abroad. I have to prove I lived in the U.S. for one year without leaving the country.

I asked if I could use a passport and the migration office rep on the phone said no because until recently I could have gone to Mexico or Canada without a passport. She said W2's only works for married couples. She said I could use school transcripts if I went all year long, which I haven't. (I don't understand how transcripts show I was in the country non-stop. Couldn't I have gone on vacation to Mexico and still completed my courses? Anyway ...)

It doesn't make any sense to me, but has anyone else been in this situation? What documents were you successful with? I am so sad to think this could delay our travel plans of introducing our baby girl to family back home at Christmas time.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Vacations don't count. You can leave the country for a few weeks. They just mean that you were resident in the country that whole time.

How many years did you live in the US? If it was only one I can see it being a bit of a problem to prove. But more than one shouldn't be that difficult.

Did you go to school there? Did you work?
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Old 20.09.2011, 21:33
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just get a Swiss passport for the baby, job done. They have lovely lay-down photo booths and the passport is ready in 10 days and costs relatively little.

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And you child won't be subject to unjust US taxes!

Meanwhile, I never had to PROVE anything, I just said (truthfully) that I had been a US resident since my birth there (except for a high-school year in France, which didn't change anything).

Crap like this is why I dumped my US citizenship a few years ago, probably should tell my kids to do the same.

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Old 20.09.2011, 21:41
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I'm (easily) confused.

Are you trying to register the birth in Switzerland in which case get your boyfriend on the, erm, case or in the USA in which case you are on the wrong forum?
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Re: Reporting Birth Abroad for U.S. please help!!!

Below is a quote in the paperwork that was emailed to me by the Consulate in Zurich. As an American I have to prove 5 years that I lived in the states.

"Only one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other foreign. Please submit evidence of the American parent’s physical presence in the United States. The law requires at least 5 years of physical presence in the U.S., two of which were after the age of 14.
o The child was born out of wedlock. If the father is a U.S. citizen, please submit the Swiss recognition decree, the Affidavit of Parentage and evidence of physical presence."

I would be happy to forward you the email from the Consulate in Zurich with all the information that you need. Otherwise, you can send them an email and they will tell you exactly what you need. I am just not sure why you only need to prove 1 year rather than 5 years of living in the states. Please send me a PM if you would like me to forward you the information.

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Old 20.09.2011, 22:02
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Re: Reporting Birth Abroad for U.S. please help!!!

Probably in my case, my 1st US passport, issued in the US when I was 15, and my second, also issued in the US when I was 21 or 22, were enough.

After all, if my first passport was issued at 15, I could not have left the country before then (I would at least have needed a drivers license to go to Canada or Mexico, and I couldn't have that before I was 16), and the stamps in my passports showed when I entered and left the US.

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Re: Reporting Birth Abroad for U.S. please help!!!

The five year residency requirement is for married couples, one year is for non-married couples and you cannot have left the country even for a minute during the year you choose as your "proof" year.

We will get the baby a Swiss passport, it's required by law, but the U.S. requires U.S. citizens to travel with their U.S. passport when entering the country.

Yes, I'm a U.S. citizen trying to report that we had our baby in Switzerland. These are the requirements as expressed to me by the embassy here in Bern. She said W2's can only be used by married couples proving the 5 year residency.
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yeah, I asked about the issuance of my first passport showing I hadn't left the country before I was 20. The embassy said they cannot use that as residency proof because I could have gone to Canada or Mexico without a passport.

the "help" at the embassy assured me that yes, this is a very complicated process and people's applications have been sitting around forever because they just couldn't find the "right kind of acceptable documentation that showed they hadn't left the country once within a 12 month period."

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The five year residency requirement is for married couples, one year is for non-married couples and you cannot have left the country even for a minute during the year you choose as your "proof" year.

We will get the baby a Swiss passport, it's required by law, but the U.S. requires U.S. citizens to travel with their U.S. passport when entering the country.

Yes, I'm a U.S. citizen trying to report that we had our baby in Switzerland. These are the requirements as expressed to me by the embassy here in Bern. She said W2's can only be used by married couples proving the 5 year residency.
Tell them to stuff it.

If they don't give your kid a US passport, then your kid is a) not obliged to use one to enter/leave the US, and b) pay US taxes.

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After all, if my first passport was issued at 15, I could not have left the country before then (I would at least have needed a drivers license to go to Canada or Mexico, and I couldn't have that before I was 16), and the stamps in my passports showed when I entered and left the US.

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Not true (at least it wasn't when I was this age). I traveled to Canada and Mexico several times sitting in the back of my parents' car before I had a passport or a driver's license (or any form of ID).

Back to the OP, just get a copy of your school transcripts and be done with it (assuming you went to school in the States). Don't worry about proving that you didn't travel to another country without your passport.
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Below is a quote in the paperwork that was emailed to me by the Consulate in Zurich. As an American I have to prove 5 years that I lived in the states.
Were you married? It's one year for non married U.S. mothers. I have the same form.

This is from the Embassy website:

"For a child born out-of-wedlock, the US citizen mother has to show documents of physical presence for one consecutive year (not leaving the USA for 1 entire year)."
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Not true (at least it wasn't when I was this age). I traveled to Canada and Mexico several times sitting in the back of my parents' car before I had a passport or a driver's license (or any form of ID).

Back to the OP, just get a copy of your school transcripts and be done with it (assuming you went to school in the States). Don't worry about proving that you didn't travel to another country without your passport.
I didn't go to summer school. The embassy said I have to have had summer school as well to show that I didn't leave the country in the summer. uhg.
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I didn't go to summer school. The embassy said I have to have had summer school as well to show that I didn't leave the country in the summer. uhg.
Unless you were incarcerated or in a coma, this is an impossible request. Just supply them with School transcripts, utility bills, bank statements, a letter from your mom, whatever and tell them the truth.

Don't stress. Get a Swiss passport and fly to the States. You have until your kid turns 18 to register his/her birth abroad.
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dont stress. the embassy people were fine when we went through process (married, one US parent). I used school transcripts for grade school, college etc. Of course, I didnt need to prove 1 full year, that sounds ridiculous. But I would just give them what you can and they should be fine with it.
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This sounds ridiculous! How can one prove that he or she has not left the country in one whole year, not even for a day, if the Embassy won't even accept passport stamps as a proof. Just seems to me that someone somewhere is purposely trying to make this more difficult than how it should...

Anyhow, did the Embassy in Bern tell you what IS an acceptable document then?

Most people did not go to summer school in the US, obviously. And for work, even though your employer may be able to say something like so-and-so did not take any holidays in a certain time period, that doesn't preclude a wknd trip to Canada or Mexico.... Utility bills and other statements simply don't prove this either. Would be interesting to see what sorts of documents are on the acceptable list by the Embassy in Bern!
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I didn't go to summer school. The embassy said I have to have had summer school as well to show that I didn't leave the country in the summer. uhg.
How many years did you live in the US?
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On a slightly different note and because I am a more traditional person. Hope the boyfriend asks the big question soon.
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Re: Reporting Birth Abroad for U.S. please help!!!

I'm a US citizen married to a foreign national, so I had to prove 5 years of US presence, 2 of which were after the age of 14 when I applied last year. I did a bit of overkill and submitted the following
- high school transcript
- college transcript
- grad school transcript
- letters from my HR offices listing the years of my employment. They needed to mention that I was working full time in the United States and include the month and year for my start and end dates. The embassy said my manager could have written it, too.

I followed the directions for the zillion forms that I had to fill out and started the process of collecting forms, letters, birth certificates, etc before the baby was born so I could just mail it to the embassy once we received the Swiss birth certificate (don't even get me started on that. It was a nightmare.).

There is a place on one of the forms which asks your travel dates. Fill this out. They know that people want to go home for Christmas and will help you. I submitted my packet at the end of November via post and baby boy was on a plane to the US in time for Christmas. I'm not going to lie, it was challenging, and there were lots of phone calls and visits to the embassy, but at the end of the day, they are there to help you.
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