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Old 09.10.2007, 16:38
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American waiting for B permit

Hello there. This is my second time posting on this forum today; its great to get some help from people who have already experienced the Swiss culture.

As for me, i recently relocated to Switzerland from France (I am originally an American citizen) with my fiancée; he was offered a job and started in July.

As he is French he was approved for his permit quickly, however his company refused to sponsor my permit so we have had to apply on our own for the b-permit non-active with OCP in Geneva.

I have a couple of questions concerning our situation:

1 How long does it take to have a permit approved by OCP in Geneva?

2.How much does the permit cost, because I would be surprised if it were free?

I have been looking for jobs in the meantime while I am waiting, and have attended four interviews, everything goes great until we get to the topic of permits. I have been turned down from all four jobs (with multinational companies) because the HR told me the permit was too difficult to acquire. Is this true??? What can I do for this?

I thank anyone and everyone for their input on my situation. I am sure that there are others out there in a similar situation to me.

~American-French Girl
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Old 09.10.2007, 16:49
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I have been looking for jobs in the meantime while I am waiting, and have attended four interviews, everything goes great until we get to the topic of permits. I have been turned down from all four jobs (with multinational companies) because the HR told me the permit was too difficult to acquire. Is this true??? What can I do for this?

~American-French Girl
Yes, it's true, in most cases, unless you are skilled in certain functions/industries. I guess you are not a French citizen. You could apply for a residence permit with your fiancee acting a your sponsor. This depends on your situation, how long you have been together, if he makes enough money to support you, when/if you are going to marry, etc. You could give it try. But, this will not give you the right to work.

I don't know if it will make it easier for the companies to the apply for the work permit for you. I'm sure someone else will offer more help on this part.
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Re: American waiting for B permit

thanks for the response; for the record we have applied with him as my sponser, but that doesnt seem to matter to any of the companies ....frustrating. I also wondered if there were any options for a temporary work permit?
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I have a couple of questions concerning our situation:

1 How long does it take to have a permit approved by OCP in
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Quite some time, considering we're nearing the end of the year. Since this appears to be your initial application, the file will possibly have to travel to Bern as well.

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Below 100CHF - but the exact figure escapes me.
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Old 10.10.2007, 10:17
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1 How long does it take to have a permit approved by OCP in Geneva?

2.How much does the permit cost, because I would be surprised if it were free?

I've no idea what OCP is (maybe others do?), but if you've already applied, why not ask them those questions? Surely they'd be best place to give you the answers.

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HR told me the permit was too difficult to acquire. Is this true??? What can I do for this?


Yes this is true. Unless you have particularly valuable skills (you didn't mention what type of jobs you were applying for), HR would have a heck of a battle trying to convince the authorities that they really couldn't find anyone else to the job in the whole of the EU. If they have other job applicants from the EU, well it's a no-brainer.

What can you do? Marry a Swiss or EU citizen, apply for a job where the skills are specialised and they can't get anyone else from the EU, or find yourself an EU citizenship (you describe yourself as American-French, but if that were the case you wouldn't be having this problem).[/quote]

I suggest reading some of the other threads in this section, there are hundreds from people describing exactly the same dilemma.
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thanks for the response; for the record we have applied with him as my sponser, but that doesnt seem to matter to any of the companies ....frustrating. I also wondered if there were any options for a temporary work permit?
All work permits are temporary - check the non-eu permits sticky for validity and purpose.

You would save yourself some time and avoid disappointment if you mentioned when applying for jobs that you need sponsorship for a work permit.

The reason that the companies don't care about the residence permit for which you have applied using your partner as the sponsor is because it will be just that - a residence permit, not a work permit. The company would still have to go through exactly the same process to obtain a work permit for you.
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Re: American waiting for B permit

Thanks to everyone who responded. Most of you confirmed the bad news that I was expecting.

It takes time to have a permit, and companies are very wary of giving it to me because it takes so much effort. Just out of curiosity what are the rules for getting married in switzerland; say if you were an american and your fiancee was french how does it work?

To address the questions posed previously.... i do not have any other citizenship rights outside of the USA i used to have a French resident card but that expired; My degree is a masters in international strategy and marketing, but that is not specific enough to be a speciality so I am in the applicant pool like everyone else, and also OCP for clarification is Office Cantonale de la Population, it is the office of visas and permits for the canton of Genève.

Once again thanks for the help; I will have to start thinking of other options to pass the time....because looking for jobs only leads to upset about the permit. If anyone knows any solutions i am open to all suggestions; Thanks in Advance
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Re: American waiting for B permit

Hello there!
I have almost the same dilemma. US Citizen with French boyfriend wanting to work in Switzerland but we will live over the border in France. I finally found a job in Geneva with a company that is willing to get the permit for me, but it takes time, six to eight weeks to get the permit once all the documents are submitted and the job description is very specific to me and my professional experience. They also had to post the position for a while to let EU and Swiss residents apply to show that no one locally was qualified. There is still no guarantee that they will issue the permit.

Everyone my boyfriend and I spoke to about this has suggested that we get married. Both the French embassy in Geneva and the US Embassy in Geneva gave us this option as the fastest solution. I was able to get the carte de sejour from the French government, but its only permission to live there, not to work. Its not the most romantic reason for marriage, thats for sure. But since we are planning on building our life in Europe, we will probably take this route.

Another option might be to apply for jobs in the US with American companies that have offices in Geneva - many of them will find it attractive that you are already in Europe and they don't have to pay for relocation, just the permit. Larger companies have HR people who just work on permits...
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2.How much does the permit cost, because I would be surprised if it were free?
I'm also a U.S. national in Canton Geneva and my year-long B Permit for study cost CHF 130. I don't know if the fee would vary for someone working.
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