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Old 13.10.2007, 03:59
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Visa Arrived Today

I received my passport back from the consulate in Montreal with a visa sticker. The only unfortunate thing with the visa is that I only have 6 weeks to be in CH. That really hurts as I'm by no means ready. The visa has the terminology "Selon AE (REC3)" which I believe is indicating that it's some sort of temporary work permit.

Quick question: If I arrive in CH after the expiry of the visa will I still be able to present myself to the local authorities and register, etc.? (Forgot to add that I'm a Canadian married to a Swiss citizen.) The Swiss gov't has had our documents for years, i.e, marriage, birth certificates, familienausweis, etc.

Also wanted to know if I could travel to CH, register a residence, secure my permit and return to Canada for a few months? That would be ideal but have no idea if it's feasible as I find what the CH gov't has said seems to contradict what I've read on this forum.

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Re: Visa Arrived Today

I thought Canada passport holders do not need a visa coming to Switzerland...
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Re: Visa Arrived Today

You don't need a visa if you intend to travel and stay up to 3 months.
But for work it's different. I received the same visa in Toronto, valid for 2 months. Basically you have to enter Swizterland within the validity period and then register at the Kreisburo. Your actual residence permit only arrives within 3 months of registering in Switzerland.
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Old 13.10.2007, 23:06
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Re: Visa Arrived Today

I know that I don't require the typical tourist "visa" as a Cdn as I've been to CH on many occassions.

Does anyone else have any input in regards to the questions I've posted?

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The visa has the terminology "Selon AE (REC3)"
There's no such thing. Maybe you wanted to say "Selon AE (RC3)". This means that the visa is for one-entry only (and not multiple entries). Usually they grant single-entries for work permits.

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Also wanted to know if I could travel to CH, register a residence, secure my permit and return to Canada for a few months?
Once you secure your permit you can exit the country provided that it doesn't exceed 3 months (or 6 in some cases for some permits I think) in a year.

If you need to leave the country before getting your permit the Immigration Office for your canton can grant you a "Retour" VISA.
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Old 14.10.2007, 00:21
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Re: Visa Arrived Today

Actually I didn't mean to say that. I'm reading the words right off of the visa - "Selon AE (RCE3)" and yes it's a single entry. Does it take as long as three months to secure the resident permit once one has registered? How does one work if no resident permit has been issued?
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Re: Visa Arrived Today

Ah, RCE3. You said "REC3" in your initial thread.

For me it took 6 weeks but the Kreisburo said that it can take up to 4 months.

Usually you receive a letter from the canton that you can use at the embassy in order to get your visa. It's called "proof of visa/permit" or something like that. You'll need it when you enter ZH at the custom, and you can successfully use it to do a couple of stuff in CH.

When you register at the Kreisburo you can also pay 20 CHF and get a paper saying that you are guaranteed a permit and so on. You can use that paper to register a bank account, get health insurance and other stuff.
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Re: Visa Arrived Today

So can one work while waiting for the permit?

Also, if I don't arrive in CH during the visa time period, can't I still show up and register after the fact? My wife and daughter are Swiss. Plus botht he Zurich migration office and the federal gov't have all of our documents, etc.

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So can one work while waiting for the permit?
From the moment you've obtained your assurance of permit (the paper that you go to the embassy with, in order to get your visa) and you've obtained the visa, you can enter CH based on that visa and start working. The Kreisburo will let you know by mail when the permit is ready.

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Also, if I don't arrive in CH during the visa time period, can't I still show up and register after the fact?
That visa is the only thing that entitles you to enter Switzerland for the purpose of applying/obtaining the work permit and start working.

If you don't have the permit, how do you plan to enter Switzerland for the above-mentioned purpose? If the visa is expired, it won't help. Lying your purpose at the customs, entering on tourist-declared purposes or other stuff like that is basically breaking the law.

As far as I understand, marriage with a Swiss could facilitate your access to a visa and a work permit, but you still need to enter CH based on that visa when you're entering the country for employment purposes.
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