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Old 12.01.2012, 13:53
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

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If you have already had a US passport in your life time you do not need your father's permission to get another. Also, if your citizenship has already been documented you also don't need your father's permission now that you are 22 years old. In that case you need to travel to the US on your US passport.
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i can not make a new one becuase my dad lives aborad for some months a year, so he can not give me the certificate to verify that i have a right to have a us passport.
So I don't think he said he needs his father's permission, it sounds like he needs a birth certificate or something like that to submit to get a new passport. I think a birth certificate is required even if you have held a passport previously, but I could be wrong.
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Old 12.01.2012, 14:32
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I think a birth certificate is required even if you have held a passport previously, but I could be wrong.
Yes, you are wrong. Especially if born outside the US, it wouldn't help at all.

He needs to get in touch with the US embassy in Bern, end of story.

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Old 12.01.2012, 14:41
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Yes, you are wrong. Especially if born outside the US, it wouldn't help at all.
Actually, he's right. Proof of citizenship (i.e. a birth certificate - but in this case the certificate issued by the US consulate, not by the country of birth) isn't required for normal renewals, but it is required if your last passport was lost or stolen.
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

Okay so.. i was born in switzerland and i also grew up here.. my dad is american and that why i got the us-passport so i guess im also a us citizen...

I can not renew my passport because i lost my old one and i dont have my certificate of proof that i have the right to have a passport, i guess its one of this two:
- Certificate of Citizenship
- Consular Report of Birth Abroad

So my possibilities are to travel to the us with my swiss passport and the esta form and tell them at the us boarder that i am a us citizec so they will take fingerprints of me and will check in there systems that i am a us citizen,

ooor

that i travel to the us with my swiss passport and the esta form and hope that they will not see that i have a dual-citizenship..

Do i get that right?

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Old 12.01.2012, 15:47
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Another person I knew got the "interrogation room" and a slap on the wrists, but was eventually allowed in.
If you're a bona fide US Citizen you cannot be denied entry.
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Old 12.01.2012, 16:00
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

If you were born here, your certificate of birth of a US citizen abroad will be on record at the US embassy in Bern, contact them.

If you enter the US without a US passport, they may not let you leave until you get one!

Plus, if you enter illegally (which, for a US citizen means entering with anything except a US passport), they may deny issuing you one!

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Okay so.. i was born in switzerland and i also grew up here.. my dad is american and that why i got the us-passport so i guess im also a us citizen...

I can not renew my passport because i lost my old one and i dont have my certificate of proof that i have the right to have a passport, i guess its one of this two:
- Certificate of Citizenship
- Consular Report of Birth Abroad

So my possibilities are to travel to the us with my swiss passport and the esta form and tell them at the us boarder that i am a us citizec so they will take fingerprints of me and will check in there systems that i am a us citizen,

ooor

that i travel to the us with my swiss passport and the esta form and hope that they will not see that i have a dual-citizenship..

Do i get that right?

Regards Nicholas
If you've only every lived here in Switzerland then everything is probably registered with the Embassy in Bern. You no longer need your father's permission for anything. Contact the Embassy and they will tell you what you need to do.

Otherwise just go to the US on your Swiss passport & keep your mouth shut about being an American citizen.

Good luck!
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Old 12.01.2012, 16:46
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

Phone US consulate for an appointment. Take your Swiss passport to the US Consulate in Zurich, to identify yourself. Take passport photos and enough cash.

Consulate
U.S. Consular Agency
American Citizen Service: Mo- Fr Besuchszeiten 10.00 - 13.00 Uhr
Dufourstrasse 101
8008 Zürich
Phone: 043 499 29 60
http://map.search.ch/zuerich/dufourstr.101

or maybe you have to go to Bern, phone for appointment,
Embassy
Amerikanische Botschaft
Sulgeneckstrasse 19
3005 Bern
P.O. Box
3001 Bern
Phone: 031 357 70 11
http://map.search.ch/bern/sulgeneckstr.19
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

Gonna be a interesting story, once our friend returns
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

Thank you all for the support..

I just called the embassy and made an appointment for tomorrow.. They said I juts have to bring the swiss passport and they can most probably find me in the their system since I got my last passport there as well.. Should work I guess?!

As much as I would love to just stay there if the won't let me back, I have to finish my studies in cold switzerland first
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I just called the embassy and made an appointment for tomorrow..
Good luck!

Just remember... no cell phones, no backpacks, etc etc etc or you'll find yourself walking back to your car or looking for a locker at the train station.
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As much as I would love to just stay there if the won't let me back, I have to finish my studies in cold switzerland first
Eh. It ain't so cold here! I lived in a much colder part of the US. Finish yer studies then the world is yours.

Have fun!
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Re: US and Swiss Citizen traveling to US

you guys are probably gonna kill me, but i found my freakin passport!! thank you all for the help!
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you guys are probably gonna kill me, but i found my freakin passport!! thank you all for the help!
You better let the US embassy know
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You better let the US embassy know
Congratulations on finding your passport, but as cannut said, indeed. If you've reported it lost or stolen already, then you definitely need to notify them that you have found it. Here's why:

Once you reported your passport lost, they enter into the system as such, so that if it is ever used by anyone, it will alarm as a lost/stolen passport to prevent someone who isn't you from being able to make a crossing on your document.

If that alarm remains in the system, it will cause a huge headache for you, because now officers (as this will be an Interpol alarm, it could be acknowledged at any airport you fly through) will have to verify your identity and whether or not you are the true bearer of the passport. It is also possible that the alarm may not be able to be removed before you travel.

My recommendation to you is that you continue to get a new passport if you did in fact report the old one as "lost". Now that you have found your "lost" passport, it will be even easier to get a new one and no birth certificate will be required.

Having the new passport will really save you a lot of potential hassles.
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...as a US citizen you're required to enter/leave the US on your US passport.
Oh dear! My wife and kids all have US passports and Canadian passports. When they go to the US, they use their Canadian passports. Have they been breaking the law for all these years?
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Oh dear! My wife and kids all have US passports and Canadian passports. When they go to the US, they use their Canadian passports. Have they been breaking the law for all these years?
Yes, they have been.

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