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B Permit for Non EU

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I have an open ended contract with Oracle Gmbh, as a Senior Consultant and on Swiss payroll, currenlty i hold a L Permit, but due the problems am facing with L permit which is not free really to do few things, i wanted to check if it's possible to get a B Permit.

Kindly suggest.
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Kindly do a search.

Else I'm willing to offer Senior Consultancy for a fee.
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Re: B Permit for Non EU

I am a non EU and from what I have read on this thread (yards and miles long as it is) it is up to your employer and your contract with your employer as to what type of permit you get. If you have an L that means your employer wrote your contract to read as if it is on a 1 year or short term bases, not open ended. This way you will have to apply to renew it at the end of the time period. This also means as you are aware, you need to ask them permission to move, you are tied to them as your employer. It is not to their advantage to change your contract/employment to open ended. If you want a B it is up to your current employer who brought you in under an L, to change that. I guess you could apply to different companies and see if they would bring you in under a B but I think you would still have to go back to you country of origin, then come back in under that B. For my experience you cannot change your L to a B with your current employer unless they apply for the B for you.

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I am a non EU and from what I have read on this thread (yards and miles long as it is) it is up to your employer and your contract with your employer as to what type of permit you get. If you have an L that means your employer wrote your contract to read as if it is on a 1 year or short term bases, not open ended. This way you will have to apply to renew it at the end of the time period. This also means as you are aware, you need to ask them permission to move, you are tied to them as your employer. It is not to their advantage to change your contract/employment to open ended. If you want a B it is up to your current employer who brought you in under an L, to change that. I guess you could apply to different companies and see if they would bring you in under a B but I think you would still have to go back to you country of origin, then come back in under that B. For my experience you cannot change your L to a B with your current employer unless they apply for the B for you.

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Not quite correct - you could have an open contract, and your employer could apply for a B permit and you could end up with an L (for non-EU) - in this case, it is up to cantonal and federal decision makers.
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Re: B Permit for Non EU

That is true, the migration and canton have the final say in what type of permit you will get. Some cantons have permit quota's (which I have still not figured out).
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Re: B Permit for Non EU

I believe it doesn't depend much on your nationality - I agree with kirley10 that it depends on your work contract.

We have a German colleague that has been working via contractor with L Permit for 4 years - and yes she was not even able to rent an appartment, not because it is not allowed but because Agencies doesn't trust much Permit L holders (in this case she was German).

In the fifth year her work contract changed into a local contract, and she got a B Permit.

So I believe it is all about your HR and your line manager to help you settling this out.


Note out of the topic: I am a bit concerned against offering an advice for a fee, especially for simple stuff like that!
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Note out of the topic: I am a bit concerned against offering an advice for a fee, especially for simple stuff like that!
A) pretty sure Shorrick was kidding
B) Not simple stuff - this is why immigration lawyers exist!
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B) Not simple stuff - this is why immigration lawyers exist!
I believe when someone is posting here - then he/she is not expecting a professional lawyer answer, that is why I consider such kind of advices and knowledge sharing a simple stuff.
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Re: B Permit for Non EU

Hi Guys,

Tons of Thanks guys its makes me happy to see your replies, i do have an open ended contract with my current employer, but am not sure about one thing is "this all which is required for a B permit"?, if yes then should not be a problem, but i heard there are other criterias as well for non EU people to get B permit, like a management profile or a huge salary along with open ended contract or, i want to check if this is true.

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Re: B Permit for Non EU

The cantons have a quota on how many B-permits they can hand out each year. Once they have reached their quota, they will start handing out L-permits even if you might fulfill the requirements for a B. if you ar enot happy with that decision, talk to the cantonal authorities and see why they decided to give you what they did and if there is any way to change it. You would need compelling reasons though.
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Re: B Permit for Non EU

Just curious, I am still in the US and have a sponsored visa application through UZH that has been approved in Zurich and I have received a temp. permit from Swiss Consolate in US. I understand that I need to go to the Canton office in Zurich to get another temp visa then they send the actual B permit in one month. Anyone know if they require other US documentation? I have heard several times that people have been required to submit FBI (if US citizen) criminal history record, anyone know if this is true? I am still in US so would like to find out before getting all the way there that this will be required

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Re: B Permit for Non EU

I believe that what you have is a visa, a sticker on you passport, works as a single entry visa valid for 3 month, if not used within the time frame, then you will need to apply again


Then when you come here you will register yourself and get an id, can be different type, and it is renewed on frequent basis, can be a year or 5, if it is for limited visit then it will be for that time only

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Just curious, I am still in the US and have a sponsored visa application through UZH that has been approved in Zurich and I have received a temp. permit from Swiss Consolate in US. I understand that I need to go to the Canton office in Zurich to get another temp visa then they send the actual B permit in one month. Anyone know if they require other US documentation? I have heard several times that people have been required to submit FBI (if US citizen) criminal history record, anyone know if this is true? I am still in US so would like to find out before getting all the way there that this will be required

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i was told to bring our FBI background check, we did, no one asked for it. But I've heard of others who were asked for it during initial registration. So just go ahead and get one - takes about 6 weeks after you submit your fingerprints.
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Re: B Permit for Non EU

Just wondering if it needs to be FBI check, my HR person at UZH told me a local police check MIGHT be required, so I got one from the city/state I live in the US. I've read elsewhere that is sufficient but others say the FBI one is what they ask for?
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Just wondering if it needs to be FBI check, my HR person at UZH told me a local police check MIGHT be required, so I got one from the city/state I live in the US. I've read elsewhere that is sufficient but others say the FBI one is what they ask for?
I'm sure your HR person probably knows best. No one asked for ours.
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