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Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

I have just been delivered my B permit as my husband is currently living in Switzerland and has a C permit. However I am currently abroad and as the permit has been sent to his home in Switzerland, he will be sending it to me via Fedex. My question is , having a passport which ordinarily requires a Shenghen visa (non EU) to enter Switzerland and Europe, do I need to ask for a visa this time as well or can I enter with my valid B permit now?
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

Just to precise and I'm not sure this makes a difference but this is a 5 year validity B permit in the Vaud Canton for family reunification.
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

If you have the B permit on you you can enter Switzerland without VISA. In general they even are happy with just the B permit, but do carry your passport with you too.
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

I already told you in your last thread what you needed to do, that you needed to apply for a visa and then apply for your permit when you arrived in Switzerland.

But you've done it your way, so I don't know what you want us to tell you.

Did you husband tell the commune that you were not currently in Switzerland? How do they suggest you should travel? Maybe they can answer your question.
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

And AIUI you can only travel in EU visa free only if accompanied by ur EU spouse
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

OK, you've been told before but unless it's changed, here it is as simple as I can think it can be said. Your have a Swiss B permit which is for residency in Switzerland, to get into Switzerland you need a visa... and not a tourist 1 as you aren't a tourist.
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

Just to update this thread in case anybody might need this info and as most replies were erroneous :

once you have a valid B residence permit and a valid passport, you do not need any type of visa to enter switzerland or any other countries in the Shengen area anymore.
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Just to update this thread in case anybody might need this info and as most replies were erroneous :

once you have a valid B residence permit and a valid passport, you do not need any type of visa to enter switzerland or any other countries in the Shengen area anymore.

I think if you had gone to the embassy in Dubai you would have found that the way you went about the whole thing was erroneous. But what's done is done.

You still didn't answer the important questions that will help others. Did you tell the commune that you weren't living there yet when your husband applied for your permit?
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

http://switzerland.angloinfo.com/cou.../residency.asp
Please note that the important bits are in para' 1 and the section on non EU/EFTA nationals. Basically and very clearly stating non EU/EFTA nationals should apply BEFORE settling in Switzerland, and within 8 days of arrival,to make it easy though I've even quoted the sections and marked them in red.

" Some non-EU nationals may enter with a valid passport only; others may require a visa".

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"Non-EU nationals' rights of residence
Non-EU/EFTA nationals have no automatic right to live or work in Switzerland. Residency is granted based on an individual's circumstances. Application must be made to the Cantonal Migration Office before settling in Switzerland.

The Swiss Embassy of the country of current residence can provide further guidance".

Therefore you need a visa to enter the country, or you lied to the CMO or gemeinde and told them you are actually here... so the only erroneous info' is coming from you!
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

I have at no point lied to the CMO or Gemeneide. My whole situation was very clearly explained in the file application I gave along with my husband and for which I applied when I was already in Switzerland.

When miniMia had told me after I wrote my first thread on this forum that the way I applied wasn't the normal way to go, I tried cancelling my application. My husband went to the Gemeneide (which are the ones who initially accepted our application and never told us I had to stay in Switzerland , they knew clearly that we were both leaving for a while due to a surgery I had to get done and my husband had written a letter in our application explaining all of this), and told them about our doubts. They said they would come back to us with more answers, but then called us to say the residence permit was delivered and thus we were not to worry anymore. I then contacted the consulate both in Dubai and my home country to explain the whole situation as I was still quite worried, and they both told me that now that I have the permit I do not need a visa.

Anyways, I don't understand why you would accuse me of lying. I was misinformed by the Gemeneide when we initially applied. Had they told us we needed to first apply for a long term visa and stay here while waiting for the permit we would obviously had done that.
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

The process really isn't difficult and is well documented. You either did or didn't have a visa to enter the country to apply for the permit. If you were physically here on a visa, applied and for and got the permit what is the problem. If you applied when you were not living here, giving them an address here and led them to believe that your were living here when you weren't... then that is a lie.

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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

I did have a visa and applied as soon as I arrived in Switzerland. However we told them that we would have to leave 1 month later because I was due to get a surgery, and all this was explained and stated, not hidden or lied about.

Anyways, I have no desire to argue with you. I am sorry for any misunderstanding I may have caused or may have had myself and wish you a pleasant evening.
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I did have a visa and applied as soon as I arrived in Switzerland. However we told them that we would have to leave 1 month later because I was due to get a surgery, and all this was explained and stated, not hidden or lied about.

Anyways, I have no desire to argue with you. I am sorry for any misunderstanding I may have caused or may have had myself and wish you a pleasant evening.
No one is said you were lying. We are asking you to clarify. Others might read your post and this the way you've done it is the norm when it's not.

From what I understood your husband was applying for you while you were living abroad. It was not clear that you applied in person while you were in Switzerland, which is why I asked you to clarify that point.

It is not normal to apply as a tourist. But yes. Sometimes the commune lets it slide. And we all know that each commune & canton does this a bit differently at times.

Others should be careful and to check & double check their own personal situation before jumping on a plane as this is not the official way to go about it. They may well get sent back home! It is important to be very very clear about this. Your posts weren't very clear until your last two posts.
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Re: Shenghen Visa needed for B permit holder non EU?

Then I am sorry for not having been clear enough from the beginning about me applying from switzerland, I thought this would be obvious but I am truly sorry to have caused this confusion.
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