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Old 23.03.2012, 22:36
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Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

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I am non-EU/non-American, and recently my employer terminated work contract(unlimited). April 2012 is last month of work. I have an L-permit with name of my employer mentioned on back of the permit card. It expires in Sept, 2012.

I am sort of confused as to how I should approach looking for a new job. Easier option is to look for job in Germany but I would prefer Swiss due to very obvious reasons.

  • What should I be telling my new job consultant or employer - that I am laid of because of financial reasons etc. Or should I lie to them by telling them that I left that company for some x,y,etc. reasons. Any CH specifics DO/DONTS experiences in this situation ?
  • Assuming I stay and look for job while getting some unemployment benefits and after some search I am able to find a company who can hire me. Now how difficult would it be to get an L-permit or B-permit in same or different canton ? What if my L-permit expires during this time - do I have to leave Switzerland or does it get renewed(I read on one of posts) by authorities ?

Thanks for advice in advance
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Old 23.03.2012, 23:33
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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

Not sure how long your L permit is still valid if your contract is terminated prematurely, even if it is printed to be until a certain date. For this you might want to clarify with your current HR.

The best policy in your case is to be honest, but only if you are being asked. From what I know, your permit is tied to your employment, thus when you are approaching a potential new employer, if you are to be hired they would need to liaise with the government and very possibly also with you current employer just to sort out the L permit issue. Like mentioned above, hopefully your current HR colleague can give you some light in this issue.

I believe if your future employer does want to hire you they would have the ways to help you sort out the permit issues. So, it is best to let them know your situations upfront so they can work more effectively.

Wish you good luck. I was a non-Eu/non-US L permit holder too and am still trying to survive.
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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

I asked my HR on the day of lay-off and then they said I could stay. But yesterday they told me that that my work permit will expire at end of notice period i.e. April. I have written to them again asking for clarification.

So in the worst case you mean, it may be possible that I will no longer be allowed to stay in Switzerland ? If that the case then I am in big trouble as I still need to stay in Switzerland to complete my Masters education(thesis pending).

What alternatives do I have to extend my stay until July end? Should I then apply for a student permit B again in the canton of my university ? Or should I go back to my country and apply for a tourist permit ?

I would really appreciate if someone could help me on this
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I asked my HR on the day of lay-off and then they said I could stay. But yesterday they told me that that my work permit will expire at end of notice period i.e. April. I have written to them again asking for clarification.

So in the worst case you mean, it may be possible that I will no longer be allowed to stay in Switzerland ? If that the case then I am in big trouble as I still need to stay in Switzerland to complete my Masters education(thesis pending).

What alternatives do I have to extend my stay until July end? Should I then apply for a student permit B again in the canton of my university ? Or should I go back to my country and apply for a tourist permit ?

I would really appreciate if someone could help me on this
I think you should pick up the phone and call the population office, give them your permit number and ask them all the questions.

The tricky thing is that they are the ones to decide. Some times even without giving any other reasons.

Good luck with the Non EU unemployed with permit to expire. I know people in the forum said it is ok to get a renewal. But I called Geneva OCP and got very firm answer: NO. They will not renew it.

So again, I encourage you to call and ask!
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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

Hi, I happen to have more or less the same question.
Also how does it work for Permit L holder to change jobs, within the same Carton or changing Carton even?

Anyone can share some experience? I am also non-EU/non-US.

Thanks!
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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

Hi Zxding,

From my experience with the L permit, some headhunters and HR react to this permit like it were radioactive.

the new company has to justify again why does it need you specifically and not a swiss or a EU citizen (just like if you were still in youre home country). I also think your old company has to agree to release you.

I believe it is also more difficult if your L permit was issued because you are a "project based" employee than if you are a "permanent" employee in your first 2 years in CH.

As far as I have read, if you are project based it is nearly impossible, as Switzerland has just accepted you to come in as such.

If you are in the first 2 years, it is still a very very difficult, but not as much as the former.

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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

Hi MariMari,

Thanks for your reply. It sounds the situation is quite bad for Permit L holder then. I have talked with our legal person, and he just told me almost the same that I basically will hardly get the chance to change job. My current work permit/residence permit does not allow job change.
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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

My understanding is that you should leave Switzerland when your L permit gets expired. Then you may tell the authority that you are looking for job and it is in progress. They may give you a couple of months, not for sure for long. Then if you still can't find job. You have to definitely leave Switzerland.
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Re: Non-EU unemployed: how to approach new job and change of permits

I'm pretty sure that you are not allowed to change jobs with an L permit. That was the case for me anyhow. You are not eligible for unemployment benefits either. When the time comes to renew the permit and you are no longer at your job, then you will be required to leave Switzerland. Definitely to to the Arbeitsamt in to discuss your situation with them personally. It can vary greatly from canton to canton.
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