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getting a permit B with DUI

I found a job in switzerland for which I will need to get a B permit. I got a DUI in the US and I know they ask for your criminal record here. Does anybody know if it might be a problem?
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Old 14.09.2006, 19:36
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

I would say from people I know, it should not be an issue. In fact, I only ever remember getting a statement of my "criminal record" when I had to switch to a C permit.

I even know foreigners who got DUIs over here and it did not affect their permits.
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

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I would say from people I know, it should not be an issue. In fact, I only ever remember getting a statement of my "criminal record" when I had to switch to a C permit.

I even know foreigners who got DUIs over here and it did not affect their permits.
You definitely have to have a police check prior to getting your first permit: I had to get a police statement of a clean record from every country I had resided in over the last 2 (I think) years prior to entry before getting my B permit.

I guess it depends how seriously DUI is classified in the US - it doesn't seem to be treated as seriously as 'Drunk Driving' in the UK for example - and what the Swiss make of it (it doesn't seem to be taken very seriously here either).

In the UK or Ireland though it could lose you the chance of a job.


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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

A DUI is a traffic offence, and although heavily punished when you get caught, it seems to be somehow socially acceptable here. Its not a crime of dishonesty, violence or indecency so I doubt it will affect your permit. They would be more worried about your ability to pay your bills.
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

shit, I must have no UK criminal record too. Bugger.
I do vaguely remember signing something now I think about it.

All that time trying to play a rogue wasted.

How hard is it to walk a line putting your finger on your nose btw?
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

Before I received my B permit, I had to get a letter from the police department in the last town where I lived, stating I had no criminal record.

I think it depends on how serious your offence was, as to whether it might impact your permit here.
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

I would just wait until they sak for it, then delay. I recall that it took them around a year to ask for my letter. I had the feeling that if I dragged my heels they would eventually forget. I would just wait and see. You'll probably find that when you send it in they'll probably say "Oh, DUI - is that all?" and tick the appropriate box. As sad as I am to say it, I can't imagine it being taken seriously here.
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

Thanks for your insights. Do you have any idea who I could ask to make sure?
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Thanks for your insights. Do you have any idea who I could ask to make sure?
This is a silly Swiss subterfuge. When I first got here, I was asked for a criminal report. When I requested a criminal report from the police station at my hometown. I was literally laughed at. You can't get one of these from most US police departments in this day and age, unless you have high level security clearance. So when I told the Gemeinde (City Hall) about this, I found out they will settle for an affidavit from the US Embassy in Bern.

So I spend half a day to trek to Bern. They write out a statement that basically states "I, Phos, never committed a crime." They then bother the Ambassador himself who comes in tongue-in-cheek saying "Raise your right hand and swear that this statement is true!", afterwhich he stamps the statement and signs it. I think I paid about 50CHF for that and a quick handshake with the Ambassador. The Gemeinde accepted it with no further questions.

On your trip to Bern, might consider visiting the bears at the Bärengrabe. The bears there like to be fed apples and sliced carrots, fyi.
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

I have to agree with the others on this one. For me it wasn't an issue, I simply told them that you can't get that sort of thing in England and they accepted it, haha suckers. But generally I find that drinking and driving is socially acceptable over here and it may even help your case to mention it
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

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I have to agree with the others on this one. For me it wasn't an issue, I simply told them that you can't get that sort of thing in England and they accepted it, haha suckers. But generally I find that drinking and driving is socially acceptable over here and it may even help your case to mention it
certainly 5 or more years ago, you'd have to fall out of the vehicle onto the copper who had stopped you. Now it's harder (if that's the right word) but punishment certainly isn't, for example, to UK standards - a year ban or more. You get a 2-3 month ban, fine and get to drive one of the 45kph "cars" around - have you seen them with the humiliating web address emblazoned on the back?
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You get a 2-3 month ban, fine and get to drive one of the 45kph "cars" around - have you seen them with the humiliating web address emblazoned on the back?
No way, you're kidding? I haven't seen one of them, mind you I'm usually so drunk when I'm driving that I usually can't focus so well.
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But generally I find that drinking and driving is socially acceptable over here and it may even help your case to mention it
Just don't come drinking and driving around me and my family. I'll come after you.
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Just don't come drinking and driving around me and my family. I'll come after you.
I know this is a serious topic so, joking aside, I would no more drink and drive than have oral sex with a crocodile. I was referring to the rather relaxed attitude that the police here seem to have with this kind of offence. Certainly it's more relaxed than the boys in blue back in England.

To get back to the original thread I think that the consensus is that your DUI conviction would have no impact on your B permit application. They're generally more interested in serious crime and non payment of bills etc. But you can always ask one of the many recruiting agencies who have a great deal of experience in applying for permits or even your own embassy.
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Re: getting a permit B with DUI

FYi... A bit related to this subject... I suffered a lot cos of the DUI not in Swiss... but when I applied for a tourist visa to the US.

Some states in the US, fingerprint you if you get a DUI... for eg., California.. And if you were fingerprinted, legally u were arrested. altho they let u go if a friend comes and picks u up...

So, when you go and apply for a tourist visa later in the years to the US (if you have to), do mention that you had a DUI and theres a question whether you were arrested and be honest about it.

I really ignored the question and paid the penalty and it popped up in their screens I guess... So, they made me do the whole finger print check and it took 10-11 months to get my visa approved.

And retain the chargesheet if you still have it...

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