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Old 21.04.2012, 11:33
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EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

Hi.

Before couple of days CH was made changes for EU8 residence and working permits.

I am interested how now I can apply for residence and work permit. What is procedure?

I am IT professional, and I am EU8 citizen. I was planning to move to BS in end of June, but now everything was changed. I donít wish to give up, this is not an option. Normally, I wish to do everything legally.

There is one similar theme in forum, but people are talking about why this was happened, not what to do people who was start procedure of moving, what they must do now.

Thanks in advice.
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Old 21.04.2012, 12:01
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

In the same boat as you. I was (and still am, I guess) supposed to move in July, but with these new quotas I'm not quite sure what will change for people trying to go through the process. I'm hoping that since the permit counter will start ticking from May 1st, the chances of obtaining a residence permit in June/July are still reasonably good (especially with a job arranged in advance). Hopefully some extra light will be shed on the administrative side of this change in addition to the already ongoing discussions on whether reinstating quotas is a decent thing to do or not.
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Old 21.04.2012, 13:17
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

I agree.
But, what if they insist in process that at first local RAV try to find worker for this position, then federal,... Than your arranged job is not guarantied.
I have no luck to have some arranged job. Everyone told me that first I must have address in CH, and then they will be interested to hire me. Also, residence and work permit was just a formality, but now it is not.
A lot of things are unclear to me at this moment. My friends in CH can not find out important information for me.
I believe that these limit of 2000 permits are some kind of barriers for unskilled worker and people who wish to use CH social system. But, I also believe that they need IT, pharmacy and medical stuff, and they wish to manage immigration of workers.
So, I have a lot of questions. For example:
Where I must apply for permit? In CH, in country of my citizenship, or country where I am living in this moment?
What they ask for permit? What documents? Did I must have arranged job?
What is proof that I am IT proffesional? Did they ask me to have garanties or some depost in bank? Proof of good german? Etc.
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Old 21.04.2012, 14:27
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

Please take this with a grain of salt, especially as I'm in the process of trying to figure these things out as well.
As far as I understand, EU nationals are allowed to come to Switzerland for 3 months while looking for work (http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/Specials...l?cid=29191706). After that you'd need to apply for a residence permit in Switzerland. Permits are issued by each canton so the requirements vary. For example in Biel they ask for work contract, 2 photos and copy of passport. And filled application, obviously (http://www.biel-bienne.ch/apps/docum...ta/fr/a1_f.pdf)

And again if someone more knowledgeable knows better then please correct me.
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Old 21.04.2012, 20:58
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

This situation is personally touching me. I have started working in April (middle management level in big corp) and I am permit B holder. Though my wife and daughter are coming in May (technically on 30th of April).
Will they be able to get perm B as well?

We are from Poland.
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Old 21.04.2012, 21:35
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Matbe try speeding things up - take their passports to the Einwohnerkontrolle asap and register them - no need to come in person :-)
I heard either here or on forum.polacy.ch that someone got his b work permit right away because he was applying in his commune in Bern which turned out to be at the canton's MigrationsAmt.

What a f......p administration as it is not yet even sure what happens with the permit renewals.
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

Hi guys, let me share with You my experience from 2 years ago, when similar quotas were long in place. I am from Slovakia, so same boat.
As mentioned, You can come here as a tourist, officially for 3 months, but nobody really checks that. If anybody asked, just tell you went for a visit home and there was no check at the border (which is true).
Search for work - it will be difficult. I am not sure whether quota (2000) will start ticking from 1st of May, but it makes more sense. I red somewhere that last year's numbers without limits were around 6000, so don't worry, there will be plenty of time. Just don't come in october and later, otherwise you will have contracts starting 1.1. 2013.
You don't need to physically be here to search for job, but once you get one, all the bureaucracy may need a swiss address (at least hotel). If You will live in someone's flat, You need to put his info on forms, so no scams there, they check this.
As for job hunting, it will be difficult, but many organizations (recruiting, HR) will not know about this change and once You will get Go from employer, they will rather follow the process than restart hiring.
Quota is oblivious of Your job type, so no matter if You will clean toilets or integrate core banking systems, You have same rights. Kinda makes sense, otherwise there would be place for corruption.
Employer is the one asking for Your work permit, that is linked with residence permit. You should have things like officially translated birth certificate (getting french translation of mine was kinda nightmare back then), photos, long valid passport. Maybe clean criminal record? But I am not sure whether for Switzerland or home country. Plus diplomas and all certificates, scanned. Anything helps, but language skills are not mandatory and they are entirely up to employer.
No deposits in bank, since You need a work permit to open account here and it is not required.
And of course, You apply here, in commune where You live (remember the address). So technically many people came here with jobs arranged somehow, they needed a lot of help from HR, and I would not rely on that.
How I came? Alone, with backpack and suit, to Zurich. On spot found cheap hostel for few days, in meantime found cheap flatshare (well, 650 chf). Still no work, but it helped claiming I am not poor and have a some of cash in my home country (whjich wasn't a lie, but I didn't need to prove it). Then started job hunt, took 6 weeks for right interview, another 3 weeks of waiting to get permit confirmation (company stated that if hiring would took more than 1 month they had right to cancel everything, and they would do it) and it worked out... It was a L permit for IT consulting, but they needed to prove they were searching for Swiss candidate or somebody with permit already for quite a while (6 weeks?). What a ride, with happy ending.
Good luck, making it here, especially in these times, means achieving Something
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

Does someone have any new informations about restrictions?
I have some informations that it is possible to use L permits for work instead of B. Is it true?
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Re: EU8 residence and work permit ( post 01.05.2012 )

Hi,

Does anyone have a recent experience with EU-8 work permit process?

I read somewhere that the B permits are divided for the year and next B permits come out on 1. November... Anyone heard about this?

Furthermore I would be interested in the whole process.

1. I register in my canton on residency
2. My future employer applies for my work permit in the canton of my future work place.

Is that it? Is there anything else to take care of?

Please share your experience!

Thanks a lot!
Vixy
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