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Old 23.05.2012, 16:22
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Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

Funny situation, a friend of the family has a daughter who wants to move to Switzerland to work. Non-EU country to permit is an issue.

To cut a long story short, I have been asked if I will marry her so she can get a B Permit (not sure if this works or not as I am non-Swiss).

To me, it has bad idea written all over it but I need to come up with some objective reasons against it.

So, would this work? And what could possible go wrong?

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Old 23.05.2012, 16:27
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Re: Should I get married?

If they find out, you'll lose your permit.
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Old 23.05.2012, 16:30
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Re: Should I get married?

Spouse of an EU national in CH gets the same permit.
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Old 23.05.2012, 16:32
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Re: Should I get married?

What if you want to get married to someone else later?
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

Post pics. She might be a boiler...
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Old 23.05.2012, 16:37
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Re: Should I get married?

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What if you want to get married to someone else later?
Well, this was one of my questions. How quickly could I get a divorce again etc. etc. and then where would it leave my ex-wife from a permit perspective? or would she keep the permit for the 5 years?
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Re: Should I get married?

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Well, this was one of my questions. How quickly could I get a divorce again etc. etc. and then where would it leave my ex-wife from a permit perspective? or would she keep the permit for the 5 years?
I had the same proposal but one of the top girls i saw in Zurich (around 30 years, consultant, MBA,, beautiful as hell, nice talking, dance salsa).

Even thought (a deeply thought) about that but many question arose like:
love (or lack)
fidelity
There was no effort to marry...it is an arranged one...and so on
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Re: Should I get married?

I was going to reply along the same lines as Nil - it would be a sham marriage, and if the cantonal migration office finds out, I would imagine you could be in serious trouble. Is it worth the risk?

You can tell your family friends and the daughter that it is illegal and will cause you trouble - neutral but effective reply, as I imagine there can be a lot of "emotional blackmail" in these types of situations (e.g. we've been friends for so long, how can you refuse, I would do it for you if it was the other way around, and similar BS).

Now if you want to tie the knot and you're not telling us the whole story, that's different
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

Are you seriously considering it ?
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Old 23.05.2012, 16:43
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

Half of your pension fund for the duration of the marriage will go to your wife.
Good enough reason?


Now say "my wife" and ask yourself "is that what you expected to feel the first time you said those words?"
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

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Important aspects for binational couples
Since 1 January 2008, the new Aliens Act has prescribed the new conditions for a residence permit beyond divorce. After dissolution of the marriage, the right to an extension of the residence permit will reamin in effect if the marriage has lasted at least three years and a successful integration exists, or if significant personal reasons make continued residence in Switzerland necessary (Art 50 AuG) an see the section "Separation" above.
The extension of a residence permit may be denied in cases of abuse of law (Art. 51 AuG).
http://www.binational.ch/?Trennung_u...iner_Scheidung

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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

Tell them you're gay!
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

I was asked in the UK, for quite a bit of money, when I was broke. Not in a million years.

Think of the legal ramifications when you get a divorce.
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

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I was asked in the UK, for quite a bit of money, when I was broke. Not in a million years.

Think of the legal ramifications when you get a divorce.
my understanding is in switzerland you can keep all assets separate in marriage such that there is no economic transfer. also, i have not met the girl and probably would not even live with her while she is here.
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I was going to reply along the same lines as Nil - it would be a sham marriage, and if the cantonal migration office finds out, I would imagine you could be in serious trouble. Is it worth the risk?

You can tell your family friends and the daughter that it is illegal and will cause you trouble - neutral but effective reply, as I imagine there can be a lot of "emotional blackmail" in these types of situations (e.g. we've been friends for so long, how can you refuse, I would do it for you if it was the other way around, and similar BS).
OK. So it would actually be illegal?
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Re: Should I get married? ( to assist a non-EU for a B permit )

Don't do it!
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but effective reply, as I imagine there can be a lot of "emotional blackmail" in these types of situations (e.g. we've been friends for so long, how can you refuse, I would do it for you if it was the other way around, and similar BS).
exactly. simply being illegal wouldn't really be a good reason for them and then i will be left it a bit of an awkward position, so i am trying to find an 'acceptable' reason.
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Old 23.05.2012, 17:01
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exactly. simply being illegal wouldn't really be a good reason for them and then i will be left it a bit of an awkward position, so i am trying to find an 'acceptable' reason.
Tell them your girlfriend wouldn't approve
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exactly. simply being illegal wouldn't really be a good reason for them and then i will be left it a bit of an awkward position, so i am trying to find an 'acceptable' reason.
My GF isn't too keen on the idea?

Yeah, I know I haven't told you about her, it's not been going on long, but I reckon telling her I'm getting married might put a swift end to things.
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Re: Should I get married?

Not sure how this could ever really be a good idea.

Even before considering whether it's legal or not think about what might happen a few years from now? What do you do when you actually want to get divorced (expensive lawyers, etc)? What happens if you want to leave Switzerland and she wants to stay? What if you decide you want to marry someone you actually want to spend your life with? You would be doing a MASSIVE favour for this friend - what will they do for you? What happens if they can't find a job or an appartment - will you have to support them?

Just the thought of the admin involved in the whole process would put me off even thinking about it.

Good luck with the decision!
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