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moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

My husband and I have been married for 7 years but always lived outside Switzerland. I am British and we met when he was working in London, and have lived in various parts of the world. We are about to move permanently to Switzerland and I am planning to start the application for citizenship.

I asked my SIL if she could find out where I need to go to start the process and she said she investigated and that I can only start after being in CH for 3 years. Is this correct does anyone know? it seems a bit bizarre IMO.

We are back and forward to CH a lot so I have files of tickets photos of family and friends events / parties we have been to, Swiss friends who have been a stayed with us in various countries, I have a town mayor as a friend who came to my wedding in Zurich who will support my application and so I think I have the integration bit fully covered, I know history and geog and am learning German.... I'm good to go with the application... and just heard about the three year thing... I thought it was if you lived in CH from the start of the marriage and you had to wait 3 years ?
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My husband and I have been married for 7 years but always lived outside Switzerland. I am British and we met when he was working in London, and have lived in various parts of the world. We are about to move permanently to Switzerland and I am planning to start the application for citizenship.

I asked my SIL if she could find out where I need to go to start the process and she said she investigated and that I can only start after being in CH for 3 years. Is this correct does anyone know? it seems a bit bizarre IMO.

We are back and forward to CH a lot so I have files of tickets photos of family and friends events / parties we have been to, Swiss friends who have been a stayed with us in various countries, I have a town mayor as a friend who came to my wedding in Zurich who will support my application and so I think I have the integration bit fully covered, I know history and geog and am learning German.... I'm good to go with the application... and just heard about the three year thing... I thought it was if you lived in CH from the start of the marriage and you had to wait 3 years ?
You British must getting desperate
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You British must getting despered
If that was supposed to be desperate ?? not really I want to make CH a permanent home and I imagine 'being Swiss' will certainly help when applying for jobs....

Do you have any other insight ??
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

Why don't you contact the Swiss embassy in London ask there. They will be able to tell you exactly how it will work and what requirements you have to meet to get that lovely red passport.
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

Or New York if closer:

http://www.eda.admin.ch/newyork

They can guide you and your husband.

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633 Third Avenue, 30th floor
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Tel.: +1 (212) 599 5700
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Visiting hours (Consular Affairs):
Monday-Friday 08:30-12:00
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Mo.-Th. 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

I am currently in the US but moving to CH in 2 weeks so I can go to the Gemeinde when I arrive as I need to register anyway, I'm not so desperate I can't wait 2 weeks
I just though maybe someone on here had been in a similar situation....
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If that was supposed to be desperate ?? not really I want to make CH a permanent home and I imagine 'being Swiss' will certainly help when applying for jobs....

]Do you have any other insight[/U][/I][/B] ??
You don`t need a passport ,to get a job
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You don`t need a passport ,to get a job
REALLY ??

I do realize this however having read many threads on here of the difficulties of non-Swiss applying for jobs I think to quote myself as saying
"I imagine 'being Swiss' will certainly help when applying for jobs...." is justified.

Do you actually have anything constructive to say ?
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

Being married to a Swiss makes it already easy enough to get a job. So don't worry.
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

Maybe you haven't been told, but along with living in your chosen Gemeinde, under the Cantonal and Federal regulations, you will also attend an interview when many oral questions need to be answered correctly.

If you don't know the basics of applying for Swiss citizenship, then you might want to begin by studying them now, and don't rush down to the Gemeinde: you have to wait 5 years, before you can apply....

... können die erleichterte Einbürgerung nach einer dreijährigen Ehedauer beantragen, sofern sie insgesamt fünf Jahre in der Schweiz gewohnt haben.

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...rgerrecht.html

... and you might also want to buy the DVD, it is still relevant,

http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_12?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url= search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=die+schweizermacher+dvd&sprefix=die+schwe ize%2Cdvd%2C307

but then again, after living here 5 years you might wish to keep your EU passport!
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Being married to a Swiss makes it already easy enough to get a job. So don't worry.
This is my experience too...not myself personally, but many friends and colleagues who are married to swiss citizens.
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Being married to a Swiss makes it already easy enough to get a job. So don't worry.
Thank you - I am sure you are right. I am not in a hurry to get a job, but IF a job came along that I wanted to apply for I want to be prepared...

I just want to get on with the process as I know it can take quite a while and with everything in life you never know what is around the corner.
We are about to build a home in CH and make it a permanent home but my husband joked that if he 'popped off' then he isn't sure what my 'status' would be. And while he was half joking I know he considers all the options of everything and I would still want to stay in CH so it makes sense to start the application.
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

You are British?

I think that makes it much easier to stay in the event of something catastrophic happening (as long as proper provision has been made for you in the case of you not having a job).
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Maybe you haven't been told, but along with living in your chosen Gemeinde, under the Cantonal and Federal regulations, you will also attend an interview when many oral questions need to be answered correctly.

If you don't know the basics of applying for Swiss citizenship, then you might want to begin by studying them now, and don't rush down to the Gemeinde: you have to wait 5 years, before you can apply....

... können die erleichterte Einbürgerung nach einer dreijährigen Ehedauer beantragen, sofern sie insgesamt fünf Jahre in der Schweiz gewohnt haben.

but then again, after living here 5 years you might wish to keep your EU passport!
Thankfully I can keep my British Passport too .

Thank you, I have looked into the process and thought that the article below had me covered.....

2. Article 28 Naturalization Act
The foreign spouse of a Swiss national who has close links with Switzerland and has lived in conjugal community with the Swiss spouse for at least six years. An application is also possible if the person concerned is resident abroad.

But maybe not.... I wondered if anyone had been in the same situation as all the things I read on the internet are not really answering my specific situation. Technically I could of applied as I have been married over 7 years - but have spent all of them living abroad with my husband.... and now it looks like after moving to CH I have to wait longer. I should of just started the process from the US
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REALLY ??

I do realize this however having read many threads on here of the difficulties of non-Swiss applying for jobs I think to quote myself as saying
"I imagine 'being Swiss' will certainly help when applying for jobs...." is justified.

Do you actually have anything constructive to say ?
Citizenship and passport are two separat things
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

In the end it is the Gemeinde whom decide if you become Swiss, governed by Canton and Federal regulations. If you move from the Gemeinde, then the five year clock starts again.
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Citizenship and passport are two separat things
so I can get a passport without being a citizen ?? I always assumed one was dependent on the other ??
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Re: moving to CH do I have to wait to apply for my red book ??

I have come across the odd advert where being Swiss is a pre-requisite, but with a UK passport and a suitable Auslanderausweis you should be OK to take pretty much any job in CH.

I just checked with my other half and apparently it will take three years before I would be allowed to apply (at the cost of 900CHF!) not that I am planning to.
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In the end it is the Gemeinde whom decide if you become Swiss, governed by Canton and Federal regulations. If you move from the Gemeinde, then the five year clock starts again.
Hmm, I thought it was a Federal matter so moving around would not matter, oh well
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In the end it is the Gemeinde whom decide if you become Swiss, governed by Canton and Federal regulations. If you move from the Gemeinde, then the five year clock starts again.
WOW. that must be really frustrating if you get offered a job in a different city !!
Luckily we have land to build on so I can't imagine we will be moving any time soon.... I've moved countries 4 times in 7 years - thins will be the 5th country.... I'm in no hurry to do it again !!
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