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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

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Guys, I have a friend. He is non-EU and lives with his wife and daughter in ZH for about 5 years now. The point none of them speaks German and they wonna apply for C-Permit. To provide this Certificate B1 is not a problem, but will they need to go for a kinda interview afterwards? Did anyone of you have an interview?
Thanks a lot in advance.
The two statements in bold would appear to contradict each other. How can they possibly provide a legitimate B1 certificate if none of them speak German?
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

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The two statements in bold would appear to contradict each other. How can they possibly provide a legitimate B1 certificate if none of them speak German?
I guess he meant writing is fine but not oral.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

Well, they passed the test like 2 or 3 years ago and never used the language. He is a business man, travels a lot and speaks mostly English. Wife goes very often to Russia and speaks mostly Russian. The kid is living in a boarding school in London. So, they are worrying if they should or should not try yet. And also, once the authorities gonna look through the passport, they are mostly outside of Switzerland.
That's why I try to find some relevant information.

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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

have a question related to a work colleague,

Non EU, middle eastern applied for the Niederlassungsbewilligung, after four month of application they asked him for latest salary statements, and said that his case is still in progress.

Any one had similar experience and knows if this is a positive or negative remark getting such request ?

I mean does anybody knows if getting a request to send back salary statement after 4 month of applying for the Niederlassungsbewilligung gives some hope that he will get his permit upgraded from B to C ?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

Quite normal. Be prepared to show language skills exam papers also.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

Argh, just started some research into this today. Am I right that even if I have lived here 5 years and speak German to B1 level, that I won't be able to get my C permit unless I take and pass the B1 language certificate? I really don't have the time to fit this into my life at the moment, so if that is the case I am going to be very peed off.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

your nationality ?
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Old 21.01.2014, 20:51
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

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Argh, just started some research into this today. Am I right that even if I have lived here 5 years and speak German to B1 level, that I won't be able to get my C permit unless I take and pass the B1 language certificate? I really don't have the time to fit this into my life at the moment, so if that is the case I am going to be very peed off.
Depends on the Canton. I don't see any benefit to a C permit over a B permit, both can buy property which used to be the deciding factor for a few people.
Once you get your certificate you will be able to upgrade assuming you don't have outstanding unpaid debts or a criminal record.
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Depends on the Canton. I don't see any benefit to a C permit over a B permit, both can buy property which used to be the deciding factor for a few people.
Once you get your certificate you will be able to upgrade assuming you don't have outstanding unpaid debts or a criminal record.

I guess I am out of date with the regulations?


My main driver to change from B to C was the B belonged to my employer whereas the C was mine.
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Depends on the Canton. I don't see any benefit to a C permit over a B permit, both can buy property which used to be the deciding factor for a few people.
Once you get your certificate you will be able to upgrade assuming you don't have outstanding unpaid debts or a criminal record.
Thanks, but I'm not looking for opinions on perceived value of the permits, I know the differences well enough.

But in Zurich I never heard this as a requirement, and I have many friends who never had to produce a certificate, so I wanted to check. I'll call and check with the Stadt tomorrow.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

I renewed my C permit last week (kanton ZH). No language certificates were asked. But maybe the switch from B to C is different.


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Argh, just started some research into this today. Am I right that even if I have lived here 5 years and speak German to B1 level, that I won't be able to get my C permit unless I take and pass the B1 language certificate? I really don't have the time to fit this into my life at the moment, so if that is the case I am going to be very peed off.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

Apparently as a member of a EU/EFTA country, no proof of a level of language is required... phew.
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Apparently as a member of a EU/EFTA country, no proof of a level of language is required... phew.


that's why I asked but its not so simple, if from the "new" EU then you need to show a certificate. SWMBO had to go thru the hoops but they were satisfied with a language degree from a swiss uni


though I guess you are not "new" EU.
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that's why I asked but its not so simple, if from the "new" EU then you need to show a certificate. SWMBO had to go thru the hoops but they were satisfied with a language degree from a swiss uni


though I guess you are not "new" EU.
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Depends on the Canton. I don't see any benefit to a C permit over a B permit, both can buy property which used to be the deciding factor for a few people.
The C permit doesn't require you to have a job at the time of renewal. They don't even ask (at least in VD they don't).
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The C permit doesn't require you to have a job at the time of renewal. They don't even ask (at least in VD they don't).
Depends on your canton and on your current permit status -- old EU/new EU/non-EU, etc. In my case (BL, "good" (old) EU B permit), the Migrationsamt wrote to me about three months before my B permit was due to expire and asked me to send in a current passport-style photo so they could issue me a C permit. That'it. Nothing more. No forms, no interviews, no certificates, no linguistic proficiency examinations. And the fee was sixty-something francs.

Quite a contrast to the OP's experience, but his circumstances were very different, and complicated.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

Can anyone say how long it took for you to get C permit after applying in Basel stadt for non Eu?

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Hello I am married here in Switzerland more than 1 year but am not going well with my wife , I think we gona divorc . I have a Job and I have B bewiligung but if I am divorced from my wife can I stay in switzerland if I can stay How ?

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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

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Hello I am married here in Switzerland more than 1 year but am not going well with my wife , I think we gona divorc . I have a Job and I have B bewiligung but if I am divorced from my wife can I stay in switzerland if I can stay How ?
EU or non EU?

If non EU your chances are slim. Unless you find a job on your own merit and find an employer that is willing to jump through the hoops of non EU hiring.
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Re: Changeover from B annual to C ( Niederlassungsbewilligung )

Depends on your individual circumstances.

"You have a residence permit (permit B)

Persons from non-EU/EFTA states


A divorced spouse’s or child’s existing residence permit may be extended provided:

•the marriage lasted at least three years in Switzerland and the spouse / family lived together,
•the persons concerned were successfully integrated in Switzerland (reputation, knowledge of the language, willingness to work) or
•important personal circumstances make it necessary to continue living in Switzerland (e.g. persecution in their home country)."

https://www.ch.ch/en/right-to-reside...th-or-divorce/

You would need to be married for 5 years before you could apply for a C permit.

The other point to bear in mind is that even if you could get a C, if you've lied during the application process about staying married then the permit will probably be revoked. Iirc they can investigate this for up to 8 years after the application so you're looking at well over 12 more years of marriage totally to be safe, assuming you're integrated enough to get a C permit in the first place.

The only other way is if your employer is willing to go through the non-EU hiring process to get you a new permit after a divorce. You personally need to be highly qualified, i.e. have a university degree, plus several years of experience in your field.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

It costs employers time and money to apply so unless they think they have a good chance of success, they simply won't bother.
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