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wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

Dear All,
I have received wrong permit card (L permit, instead of B permit) from Basel Canton. Your advise in this situation would be of great help for me.

I am working in Basel for the past 24 months in L permit. I entered Basel in July 2010. I applied for B permit conversion recently, since my present L permit expires in July 2012.

But last week , i received my new permit card, which is L again.


When my service provider(agency) contacted the Basel labour office they informed that their system showed an entry of July 2011 by mistake because of which the authorities have extended the L permit for another 12 months.

Agency is telling me that its very complicated to re-do the whole process to get B permit.

(My current employer and agency are not worried, as anyway i have work permit for next one year)

Is there a possiblities to get B permit ? can i directly approach the Labour office?
Your advise will be a great help.
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

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Dear All,
I have received wrong permit card (L permit, instead of B permit) from Basel Canton. Your advise in this situation would be of great help for me.

I am working in Basel for the past 24 months in L permit. I entered Basel in July 2010. I applied for B permit conversion recently, since my present L permit expires in July 2012.

But last week , i received my new permit card, which is L again.


When my service provider(agency) contacted the Basel labour office they informed that their system showed an entry of July 2011 by mistake because of which the authorities have extended the L permit for another 12 months.

Agency is telling me that its very complicated to re-do the whole process to get B permit.

(My current employer and agency are not worried, as anyway i have work permit for next one year)

Is there a possiblities to get B permit ? can i directly approach the Labour office?
Your advise will be a great help.
Are you from the EU or not? In the case of an arrival from the EU, the B-permit is not tied to the employer. If you are not from the EU, perhaps th quota for B-permits is exhausted and that is why you have received L.

You can contact your local commune or the migration service of your canton and ask them directly why you have received a L permit instead of B. 24 months is quite a long time, you work continously and you are entitled to receive a B-permit.
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

Hello! Sorry for bumping this old thread.

I am from an EU country (EU-27/EFTA national) and found a job here in Switzerland. The contract os open-ended (unbefristet) and I've requested a permit at the Imigrationsamt.

Today I've received my Ausländerausweis but it is an L permit... Shouldn't it be an B permit?

Last time I've worked in Switzerland I got an L permit but my contract then was 12 month limited so I understand the diference. What am I missing?
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

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Hello! Sorry for bumping this old thread.

I am from an EU country (EU-27/EFTA national) and found a job here in Switzerland. The contract os open-ended (unbefristet) and I've requested a permit at the Imigrationsamt.

Today I've received my Ausländerausweis but it is an L permit... Shouldn't it be an B permit?

Last time I've worked in Switzerland I got an L permit but my contract then was 12 month limited so I understand the diference. What am I missing?
I believe in some professional fields you get a L permit first. On the expiration date of your permit, if your work status hasn't changed, you get the B...

Sorry but I can't find an official source. Probably depends by cantons...
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

Haven't heard of that before Th3Alchemist. The official website makes it pretty clear: L if the contract is for up to 12 months, B if it's at least 12 months or of unlimited duration.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...l_eu_efta.html

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...b_eu_efta.html

However, as we don't know the OP's nationality, if they're Bulgarian/Romanian it could be that the B permit quota has run out already so that could be why they got an L.
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

I had an L back in 2005 because the EU B quota was used up.

Unlimited contract, and British.

As noted, quotas still exist for new EU countries.
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However, as we don't know the OP's nationality, if they're Bulgarian/Romanian it could be that the B permit quota has run out already so that could be why they got an L.
I'm portuguese. I tried to call the imigration office but they're already closed. I will try to get an answer tomorrow and post it here. Probably it was a mistake since I've worked here before on a L permit.

What would be the disadvantage of having an L instead of B? Can I change the job and still get B after one year or will this "reset" my L permit?
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

Changing jobs is not a problem, more likely to be finding some place to rent (some landlords/agencies prefer people with B permits over L), maybe car leasing - not sure. Permit shouldn't reset, but depends on why you got an L in the first place.
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What would be the disadvantage of having an L instead of B?
Time on an L permit also doesn't count towards Swiss citizenship now, if that's a concern for you.
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

Hi again!

I've contacted the Immigration's Office. Apperently they forgot to include an explanation for it.

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Gemäss kantonaler Praxis wird Arbeitnehmerinnen und Arbeitnehmern in bestimmten Branchen (Bauwesen, Gastronomie, Haushalt, Landwirtschaft, Pflege, Reinigung) einen Kurzaufenthaltsbewilligung EU/EFTA für max. 12 Monate erteilt.

Bei der ersten Verlängerung ist zusammen mit dem Gesuchsformular V1 eine aktuelle Arbeitsbestätigung einzureichen. Bei gefestigtem Arbeitsverhältnis wird eine vierjährige Aufenthaltsbewilligung EU/EFTA erteilt. Die Kosten für die Umwandlung belaufen sich auf Fr. 13.--.

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So there is the "official answer"...
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

In English:

"According to cantonal practice, employees in certain sectors (construction, gastronomy, household, agriculture, care, cleaning) are granted an EU/EFTA short-term residence permit for a maximum of 12 months.

At the first renewal, a current employment certificate must be submitted together with the application form V1. If the employment relationship is stable, a four-year EU/EFTA residence permit is issued. The costs for the conversion amount to CHF 13."

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

Interesting. I suppose it makes sense. Good to know so thanks for posting.
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Hello! Sorry for bumping this old thread.

I am from an EU country (EU-27/EFTA national) and found a job here in Switzerland. The contract os open-ended (unbefristet) and I've requested a permit at the Imigrationsamt.

Today I've received my Ausländerausweis but it is an L permit... Shouldn't it be an B permit?

Last time I've worked in Switzerland I got an L permit but my contract then was 12 month limited so I understand the diference. What am I missing?
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I'm portuguese. I tried to call the imigration office but they're already closed. I will try to get an answer tomorrow and post it here. Probably it was a mistake since I've worked here before on a L permit.

What would be the disadvantage of having an L instead of B? Can I change the job and still get B after one year or will this "reset" my L permit?
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Hi again!

I've contacted the Immigration's Office. Apperently they forgot to include an explanation for it.



So there is the "official answer"...

Actually there's no "official answer"...

So one year has passed and I've requested the "upgrade" to the B permit... Got another L... This time they've said that the permanent contract I've been working on has an hourly based salary... So that's why I got the L again... It's kinda frustrating. Guess if I happen to lose my job I don't get any RAV unemployment benefits. Sorry this rant! Guess I must be very bad using the internet to find such official explanations/informations...
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

Would it be wrong to contact them and explain/complain that they wrongfully informed me about the process to obtain a B permit?

Obviously I don't think they would change anything, but I think it's a bit rude that I've requested this "upgrade" as they suggested one year ago and they simply return an L permit with a 66.- bill and omitting any explanation.

Am I over-reacting?
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Re: wrong permit type L received, instead of B permit card

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Would it be wrong to contact them and explain/complain that they wrongfully informed me about the process to obtain a B permit?

Obviously I don't think they would change anything, but I think it's a bit rude that I've requested this "upgrade" as they suggested one year ago and they simply return an L permit with a 66.- bill and omitting any explanation.

Am I over-reacting?
If you "explain/complain that they wrongfully informed me about the process to obtain a B permit" then I don't think you'll get far. Telling people they do their job wrong rarely results in getting what you want.

Instead, I'd recommend contacting them and saying you have a few questions and asking if you can provide more information that would help change the situation. For example you could say something like:

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A year ago, I was told the reason for L permit was XXXX and that this year I could request a B. I did that, but still only received an L permit. I'm an EU citizen, so I thought B permits were more common, particularly with open-ended contracts. Is there more information my employer or I can provide to your office that would suffice to issue a B permit?
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If you "explain/complain that they wrongfully informed me about the process to obtain a B permit" then I don't think you'll get far. Telling people they do their job wrong rarely results in getting what you want.

Instead, I'd recommend contacting them and saying you have a few questions and asking if you can provide more information that would help change the situation. For example you could say something like:
I will definitely do that next year
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