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We are a couple (unmarried). I am swedish living and working in germany my boyfriend is british currently living and working in the netherlands but has been offered a job in Switzerland.

Since we are not married and I am already in the German health system, pension, unemployment insureance etc. it seems to make sense for us to live on the German side of the border -- at least at the start -- and commute into Switzerland (my boyfriend) I am still unsure of what to work with/do if we both move there.

However during negotiations for the position my boyfriend was told it is not allowed to live in germany and commute to Switzerland, can this really be true?

Thanks!
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Old 04.07.2012, 14:03
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Hi,
We are a couple (unmarried). I am swedish living and working in germany my boyfriend is british currently living and working in the netherlands but has been offered a job in Switzerland.

Since we are not married and I am already in the German health system, pension, unemployment insureance etc. it seems to make sense for us to live on the German side of the border -- at least at the start -- and commute into Switzerland (my boyfriend) I am still unsure of what to work with/do if we both move there.

However during negotiations for the position my boyfriend was told it is not allowed to live in germany and commute to Switzerland, can this really be true?

Thanks!
There are many thousands of people living in Germany/France & commuting daily. Search for G permit or Grenzgänger.
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Hi,
We are a couple (unmarried). I am swedish living and working in germany my boyfriend is british currently living and working in the netherlands but has been offered a job in Switzerland.

Since we are not married and I am already in the German health system, pension, unemployment insureance etc. it seems to make sense for us to live on the German side of the border -- at least at the start -- and commute into Switzerland (my boyfriend) I am still unsure of what to work with/do if we both move there.

However during negotiations for the position my boyfriend was told it is not allowed to live in germany and commute to Switzerland, can this really be true?

Thanks!
You both being EU, it shouldn't be a problem at all !
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Re: Border commuting?

Hi guys,

the unmarried boyfriend here.

Thanks for all your help. It looks like you are confirming what I had suspected. I had also heard a lot about Grenzgänger and thought it was a common thing.

My potential employer's HR department has told me that as a British national I may not live in Germany and work in Switzerland, but I cannot find anything on the internet that explains this statement.
Both the British consulate in Germany and Switzerland also seemed to think there is no reason why not.

If anyone does think of a reason why not, please let us know.

I think I have enough to comfortably ask the employer to clarify why they say this.
This is helpful, thanks a lot.

Dave
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Old 04.07.2012, 14:44
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Re: Border commuting?

Info about the 'G' Permit here:

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...g_eu_efta.html

And check with the Germany embassy to see what a UK citizen needs to do if they want to live but not work in Germany.
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My potential employer's HR department has told me that as a British national I may not live in Germany and work in Switzerland, but I cannot find anything on the internet that explains this statement.
There are numerous Brits in my office who are Frontaliers working in Geneva, and living in France. As such, I am certain that there is no law against doing the same from Germany elsewhere into Switzerland. Therefore, your new company may have a policy against doing this, or most likely HR don't know their ass from their elsbow.
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Re: Border commuting?

Some "signatory" jobs require you to have an address/domicile in CH. Is it possible that this or something similar is the cause?

The only other thought is that they have a specific quota of permits at the company that they need to fill?

If you have a B-permit, are you obliged to live in CH? One alternative would be to move, and once your probabation is completed, move to Germany...

Finally, ask the employer for a written explanation, you can then show it to the various parties involved.
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There are numerous Brits in my office who are Frontaliers working in Geneva, and living in France. As such, I am certain that there is no law against doing the same from Germany elsewhere into Switzerland. Therefore, your new company may have a policy against doing this, or most likely HR don't know their ass from their elsbow.
There are many British nationals living in Germany & working in CH.
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Re: Border commuting?

Presumably your new job will be in Basel. Why not go ahead and share a flat in Basel, but go every night to your girl friend in Germany? Although you pay a bit more for health insurance your tax bill will be lower. Also if the weather is bad, or you both want a night out in Basel you can get the bus home and she can sleep with you in Basel.

http://www.wgzimmer.ch/en/wgzimmer/?wc_language=en

Your employer probably doesn't want the extra hassle of having someone paying some payments in Germany and some in Basel.
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There are many British nationals living in Germany & working in CH.
There's many Germans (and Swiss) working for ABB in Baden but living 15 minutes up the road, on the German side of the border, as houses are a lot bigger and cheaper.

I've also met many Brits on flights who work for Swiss International Airlines in Basel but live in both France and Germany.

I think the German tax system is more complicated than the French though.
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