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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

You'd also need to get your qualifications recognised before you could start practising here.

You are a doctor, dentist, veterinarian, pharmacist or chiropractor and would like to work in Switzerland?

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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

1-Can anyone give me a list with the names of these hospitals please?

Um, no. Google is your friend. FWIW, the FMH (Swiss Medical Federation) website has links to all of the training hospitals in the country, and you can search by location and specialty.

2-I was also wondering what is the procedure for application?

That is pretty clearly outlined in post 2. Find job openings. Apply to them. Hope you get an interview.

3- is there a website that ranks these universities?

There are a ton of different international rankings, which really should not matter a ton at this point. If you are trying to get a job as a doc in CH, especially as a non-CH/non-EU applicant -- JUST GET A BLOODY JOB. Any specialty, any location. Once you are in the system and have a year of experience it is usually significantly easier to move laterally into more desirable hospitals and specialties -- although the sexy specialties are much harder to get, and tend to go to Swiss applicants. You are a second class citizen in that regard (just like me). Actually, third class. Second class would be EU citizens. Non-EU foreigners are at the bottom rung of the ladder.

4- Is there any test that I will have to sit for prior to my application?

You will need to have some official demonstration of your language fluency. Other requirements may vary from Canton to Canton. There is no real one-size-fits-all, here.

5- would a residency in switzerland make me eligible to apply to the european board? If not where can i practice having graduated from a residency program in switzerland?

Generally, yes, although the boards of different specialties (and different countries) can vary substantially. That will require research on your part. And yeah, Swiss training travels extremely well.

6- I am intersted in internal medicine/ pediatrics, how competitive are these fields?

IM and Peds are often among the easier positions to get, actually. That should help a lot, although my impression is that it is harder to get hired as a non-EU applicant in French-speaking locations. Maybe not, but that has been my gut feeling over the past couple of years in taking with colleagues.

My partner has a master degree in finance from lebanon as well and 3years of working experience. How easy would it be for him to find a job in switzerland?

No idea, but it is probably not super easy. Depends on what he wants to do, of course, and most of all whether or not he could be hired and get a visa. For doctors it is a little easier, Switzerland NEEDS doctors, so if you get hired you pretty much are going to get a visa. However, Switzerland has no real shortage of finance bubbas.

Thanks, I appreciate the help anyone can provide.

No worries. Good luck to you.
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1) Get to B2 -- at least -- in German. Your B-card (plus your marital status with a CH citizen) are great to have, but without the language skills you will not be hired.
2) Apply to positions that interest you, they are listed on the hospital websites and in Swiss medical publications.
3) Cross all digits and pray that you are selected for an interview -- apply broadly to make this a more likely scenario.
4) Wow them in an interview setting with your language skills, charming personality, demonstrated work ethic, impeccable hygiene, and witty repartee.
5) Get a job offer.
6) Start working.

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Thanks dear,

I have passed B2 but it is not very fluent. I have few question regarding interview and PG:

1. Does English speakers(along with not so fluent german) have advantage.
2. What type of questions they ask ? just the medical knowledge? or also other things?
3. Can i join residency/post graduation(PG) directly? or will I have to first work like a observer (for few yrs)?


Thanks a lot in advance if you could reply me these here or by PM.

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Old 17.12.2015, 12:52
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Thanks dear,

I have passed B2 but it is not very fluent. I have few question regarding interview and PG:

1. Does English speakers(along with not so fluent german) have advantage.
2. What type of questions they ask ? just the medical knowledge? or also other things?
3. Can i join residency/post graduation(PG) directly? or will I have to first work like a observer (for few yrs)?


Thanks a lot in advance if you could reply me these here or by PM.

dr remo
1. No, of course not. English is a nice bonus language to have, but applicants with better German will be ahead of you.

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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Hi Cugeno,
On top of your useful list of steps and conditions (in this case no problem on language: raised here, studied abroad with dual EU-CH nationality, wishing to return and stablish in CH), could you kindly reply the following?

- In your opinion, if the goal is to end up working in Switzerland, does it help at all to gather a couple of years of previous practice in the country of study after finishing, to improve the chances to later get one of the advertised residence positions in the Swiss hospitals, or in Swiss hospitals they would rather prefer young fresh doctors to mold the easily into their particular way of doing?

- In your experience, as far as the medical title is EU recognized, is it accepted widely or do the hospitals pose additional conditions depending on the medical school of origin (ie do they have preferences on private medical schools vs public or vice-versa?).

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1) Get to B2 -- at least -- in German. Your B-card (plus your marital status with a CH citizen) are great to have, but without the language skills you will not be hired.
2) Apply to positions that interest you, they are listed on the hospital websites and in Swiss medical publications.
3) Cross all digits and pray that you are selected for an interview -- apply broadly to make this a more likely scenario.
4) Wow them in an interview setting with your language skills, charming personality, demonstrated work ethic, impeccable hygiene, and witty repartee.
5) Get a job offer.
6) Start working.

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- In your opinion, if the goal is to end up working in Switzerland, does it help at all to gather a couple of years of previous practice in the country of study after finishing, to improve the chances to later get one of the advertised residence positions in the Swiss hospitals, or in Swiss hospitals they would rather prefer young fresh doctors to mold the easily into their particular way of doing?
My daughter (CH/EU, French-schooled) faced that same question. I think the judgment was either seek to return to Switzerland early or wait until she had recognised seniority. Now specialist registrar in general surgery she is staying, initially because her husband, also a doctor, doesn't speak a Swiss language but there are other reasons too.
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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Hello!

I am a final year medical student at a medical university in Hungary (University of Debrecen). I am planning on going into neurology for the specialty and was wondering if anyone knows how is the situation with such placements as neurology in terms of competition? I know areas like Zurich are extremely competitive so I don't mind starting in a smaller place

I am planning to graduate in September 2020 and spend the rest of the year on learning German intensively before applying for a position..

I am Russian myself, but since I'm graduating from EU university and will have EU diploma, will it make it a little more possible for getting a job as a non-EU citizen?

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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

My gut-feeling is that you will need to understand and speak German very well.

While a large number of doctors and nurses are German (from Germany), being able to understand the local dialect will be a big plus, too.

Have you ever been to Switzerland?
Did you understand what people said?
;-)

Can't talk about the job prospects now. Wife of an ex-coworker is in the same field, IIRC, and she had no problem finding a job a couple of years ago AFAIK.
She's Brazilian originally but studied in Germany and speaks German very well.
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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Yes, of course I am aware of the language requirement so I am trying to give it as much time as I can meanwhile still being in my final year of studying and I will definitely give it 4-5 months of intense studying after graduating and before applying for a job... so I am hoping to reach B2 by them

Yeah, I have been to Switzerland several times but couldn't understand the language at that time )

I was just wondering about the perspectives of getting into neurology with a EU diploma (considering I am not a EU citizen myself) and of course knowing the language by the time of application :-)

Thank you very much for your reply!
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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Thanks a lot! I just read the post, it's very helpful!

But maybe you could clarify something for me.. As I understood from the "diploma recognition" by MEBEKO, it's not enough to have a diploma/degree from a EU country (Hungary in my case) but one should also be a citizen of EU or EFTA? Otherwise the only way of getting the diploma recognized is by " Registered but unrecognized degrees" option?

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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Hello Vera

Since you are non EU citizen with EU degree:
Step 0: learn german upto B2-C1.
step 1: complete all your medical years & pass national medical licensing exam of Hungry.
Step 2: FIND & APPLY online for A JOB, (with your Hungarian medial degree (EU degree) shouldn't be a problem). I would suggest: apply in psychiatry, max. chances & change after 1-2yrs in other branches laterally. For job interviews: through skype or personal presence might be expected.
Step3: after signing a work contract, contact migration office for a resident permit (you will get permit L or permit B), meant for stay more than 90 days.
Step 4: approach mebeko for recognition of medical degree. Hungry is a contracting state of EU. So, your degree should be recognized without problem. (ref.: type 2 of recognition of EU degree on the link above)
Step 5: start your semester of specialisation, branch is irrelevant as 1 elective yr could be counted as part of the neurological specialisation program. For details read: www.fmh.ch » neurologie (in DE/ FR)

Enjoy staying here with job as well as specialisation program.

I hope, these suggestions help you in some way..
Have a nice evening.. .

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Hello!
Thank you very much for your kind reply! Very useful information, I am going to follow the steps you mentioned! :-)

Have a good evening,
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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Oh, just one more thing.. Type 2 diploma recognition requires having nationality of Switzerland or of a Contracting State of Switzerland (EU or EFTA) or the spouse has the nationality, as it is mentioned in the link. Or am I misunderstanding something?

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Oh, just one more thing.. Type 2 diploma recognition requires having nationality of Switzerland or of a Contracting State of Switzerland (EU or EFTA) or the spouse has the nationality, as it is mentioned in the link. Or am I misunderstanding something?

Thank you for ur help!
Hello Vera

So far as i know that priorities are given first to Swiss & EU with EU degrees, but scarcity of doctors in few specific branches are huge especially in remote areas. So, once you have sufficient language competency , which could get you the work contract, then you can work easily as well as start your specialisation. Nationality would be irrelevant then. I had collegues from Balkan countries with non EU degree, but with command over German language earned them job as resident doctor.
Have you finished all your medical years?

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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

That's a good news, thank you!

I am currently in my final year (6th) of studying and planning to graduate in September. I am trying to keep learning German meanwhile, yet I haven't gone far with it as for now . I am also supposed to go to Austria for 2.5 months to complete one of the necessary clinical blocks and I am going to give German language the priority while being there.. so hopefully it will speed up learning the language

So after having graduated and having reached the necessary level in German I think I will start applying for the job =)
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That's a good news, thank you!

I am currently in my final year (6th) of studying and planning to graduate in September. I am trying to keep learning German meanwhile, yet I haven't gone far with it as for now . I am also supposed to go to Austria for 2.5 months to complete one of the necessary clinical blocks and I am going to give German language the priority while being there.. so hopefully it will speed up learning the language

So after having graduated and having reached the necessary level in German I think I will start applying for the job =)
Hey Vera

All the very best for your future.. & Viel Spass beim Deutsch lernen 😉😊😊

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All the very best for your future.. & Viel Spass beim Deutsch lernen 😉😊😊

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Thank you once again for your kind replies!
The information was very helpful

Have a good weekend,
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Re: Medical residency in Switzerland

Dear Drremo,

Glad to know that Ive a predecessor! Im exactly in your position (MBBS from India). I had to relocate to Switerland and have a B permit.. could you please guide me to get a job here as resident doctor.

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