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Old 10.07.2012, 15:17
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My experience as a non-EU with Swiss wife and obtaining my B-Permit.

Because of EF, I got all the advice I needed for our relocation to CH. Allow me to share my experience so that I too can help the next person...
I'm a South African and married to a South African/Swiss National, we have a 2 year old child. We decided to take the plunge in January 2012. She came here alone to secure a flat and a job and I followed in March after she had done so. Our daughter came over in February on a Visitors Visa and SA Passport with her Grandmother. My wife registered her at the Gemeinde and now holds Swiss Nationality as well. (we applied for her Swiss Passport yesterday)
As for me...I didn't exactly follow the "correct" procedure. I was told to apply for D-Visa at the Swiss Consulate in Cape Town, but didn't do that, even though I had all the relevant documents I was not prepared to wait 2-3 months for that Visa.
I applied for a Visitors Visa instead and then take a chance with applying for B-Permit here in CH. I was so stressed out about this decision and was convinced it was not gonna work. Anyway, my wife took me to the Gemeinde to get registered and inform them of my intention to stay (family reunification). The dude was so cool about it and gave me an appointment letter for the immigration office. A week later we went to Immigration, submitted relevant documents + photo and signature and the dude there told me I'll have my B-Permit in 4 weeks....no questions asked, no hassle, no German translation (all documents in English)....what a relieve.
A week later Immigration requested our Swiss Family Book. We did not have one, so my wife requested one from relevant office. Two days later we received Family Book and submitted copy to Immigration. The late submission of last document didn't hold up the process and true to his word, I received my B-Permit within 4 weeks.
I do realize that I was fortunate for everything to work out so easy for me (us) and it might not work for everyone, but know this, do your homework and be prepared for every eventuality....

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Re: My experience as a non-EU with Swiss wife and obtaining my B-Permit.

I guess you are very fortunate in your encounter with Swiss beurocracy.

My Spouse is Swiss and I am non EU.

It took me 441 days from submitting the documents for marriage preparation to obtaining entry Visa stamp and a legal notice to Bern for the whole process. Not to mention the endless correspondences with Migrationsamt and Zivilstandsamt Zürich.


I quit my job in US and moved here . I have a job offer in hand but no permit yet to start. Hopefully it won’t take another 400 odd days.
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Old 16.07.2012, 15:55
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Re: My experience as a non-EU with Swiss wife and obtaining my B-Permit.

I can only speculate the time it takes to get my permit will fall somewhere in between you guys.
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Old 18.07.2012, 15:51
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Re: My experience as a non-EU with Swiss wife and obtaining my B-Permit.

Well, the Swiss Consulate said that South Africa is a "low risk country" when it comes to Immigration related issues. Maybe that's why I was not really scrutinized. I'm under the impression that it's also easier for Americans..???
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Re: My experience as a non-EU with Swiss wife and obtaining my B-Permit.

Hi Riaan,

I'm a US citizen, my husband was just hired for a 2-year contract in Basel on a UK passport. We'd rather not be apart and are considering the same thing you did (e.g., I enter on a tourist visa and we apply for long-term from within the country). I've read that rules and allowances vary by canton. If you don't mind me asking, where were you located in CH when your fortunate experience occurred?

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Hi Holly

I'm in Canton Zurich. Being married to a Swiss National has made things easy for me. Your husband will be here on a L-permit, but I'm not sure what permit Immigration will issue you. Maybe only a B-permit, but with restrictions. You must get registered at your local "Gemeinde" if you are gonna stay here for a while, so I suggest you go and explain to them your intention and take it from there...
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Re: My experience as a non-EU with Swiss wife and obtaining my B-Permit.

Hi Riaan,

We are considering that route, where I fly in with him on August 29, we go to the local Gemeinde to register me and explain our situation. What documents did you take with you? We know I should have passport photos and bank statement. Did you take a criminal record check of some kind? I assume you also took a marriage certificate.

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Hi Holly

The Gemeinde only wanted my Passport and Marriage Certificate to register. After I made my intentions clear, they gave me an appointment letter for the Immigration Office. There they took my photo's, signature, police clearance certificate, my wife's work contract, the lease agreement and our Swiss "family book".
Different people have different experiences with regards to the process. Get some info at the Swiss Consulate before you travel and take everything with a pinch of salt, because no two sources (whether it be people or info on the net) will be exactly the same. Go with your gut feeling and be sure to have a plan B if plan A doesn't work out...
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I guess you are very fortunate in your encounter with Swiss beurocracy.

My Spouse is Swiss and I am non EU.

It took me 441 days from submitting the documents for marriage preparation to obtaining entry Visa stamp and a legal notice to Bern for the whole process. Not to mention the endless correspondences with Migrationsamt and Zivilstandsamt Zürich.


I quit my job in US and moved here . I have a job offer in hand but no permit yet to start. Hopefully it won’t take another 400 odd days.
This is crazy.....but I honestly believe 10 people in the same boat will have 10 different experiences.

I'm non EU, came over to meet my then boyfriend (Swiss), went to the gemeinde and said I was here to stay/register (no problems) paperwork came a week later. We submitted our marriage paperwork, took 2 weeks to approve, got a wedding date 3 weeks later. One week after that I got a job, company applied for my permit and it came 2 days later.

400+ days? How frustrating!
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I guess you are very fortunate in your encounter with Swiss beurocracy.

My Spouse is Swiss and I am non EU.

It took me 441 days from submitting the documents for marriage preparation to obtaining entry Visa stamp and a legal notice to Bern for the whole process. Not to mention the endless correspondences with Migrationsamt and Zivilstandsamt Zürich.


I quit my job in US and moved here . I have a job offer in hand but no permit yet to start. Hopefully it won’t take another 400 odd days.
You do know that not having the permit (application pending) doesn't stop you from working as long as you're married to a Swiss? All you need to give your new employer is a letter from the Gemeinde stating the application is being processed.
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Because of EF, I got all the advice I needed for our relocation to CH. Allow me to share my experience so that I too can help the next person...
I'm a South African and married to a South African/Swiss National, we have a 2 year old child. We decided to take the plunge in January 2012. She came here alone to secure a flat and a job and I followed in March after she had done so. Our daughter came over in February on a Visitors Visa and SA Passport with her Grandmother. My wife registered her at the Gemeinde and now holds Swiss Nationality as well. (we applied for her Swiss Passport yesterday)
As for me...I didn't exactly follow the "correct" procedure. I was told to apply for D-Visa at the Swiss Consulate in Cape Town, but didn't do that, even though I had all the relevant documents I was not prepared to wait 2-3 months for that Visa.
I applied for a Visitors Visa instead and then take a chance with applying for B-Permit here in CH. I was so stressed out about this decision and was convinced it was not gonna work. Anyway, my wife took me to the Gemeinde to get registered and inform them of my intention to stay (family reunification). The dude was so cool about it and gave me an appointment letter for the immigration office. A week later we went to Immigration, submitted relevant documents + photo and signature and the dude there told me I'll have my B-Permit in 4 weeks....no questions asked, no hassle, no German translation (all documents in English)....what a relieve.
A week later Immigration requested our Swiss Family Book. We did not have one, so my wife requested one from relevant office. Two days later we received Family Book and submitted copy to Immigration. The late submission of last document didn't hold up the process and true to his word, I received my B-Permit within 4 weeks.
I do realize that I was fortunate for everything to work out so easy for me (us) and it might not work for everyone, but know this, do your homework and be prepared for every eventuality....

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Hallo Riaan,
Thanks alot for your post it's really helpful,
i am also a non-EU with a Swiss wife and 2 girl babies [They holding Swiss nationalities as well],
and tomorrow we will request a Family Book from the Swiss Consulate.
also i took A1 and A2 German language courses.
we are planning to relocation to live in Switzerland so i need to take an advice from you:
what is the best steps i have to take?
and should i search for a job online or something before i go there?
is it possible to find English speaking jobs there [IT field 'Software Engineer']?
should my wife travel first with the kids and search for a job,flat, etc..
and if i followed my wife by 3 months for example should i apply for D-Visa?
and what is the average price for the flat there?

Thanks again and waiting for your advice.
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I am a US citizen. I came to visit my Swiss gf on a tourist visa, and we decided to get married. However, I needed to go back to the states for a few months first. We went to the zivilstandsamt to register to get married, and they told me that they would need a letter from migracion( stating that i would have a visa )before they could start on the paperwork. We went to migracion, and they told us they would need a letter from the zivistandsamt stating that we were getting married before they would give me a visa. After several phone calls, and a return visit to the zivilstandsamt, I was told that in order to marry my Swiss gf here in CH, I would first have to go to the Swiss Embassy in New York. By the time this all happened my flight was leaving shortly to go back to the US.. So I went back, but having used up every last day of my Schengen visa. My gf spoke with migracion and eventually(about a week before my flight back to CH) they said that everything was settled. Conveniently, they said I could pick up my visa from the consular office in Philadelphia. I called the Phila. office and they said that was impossible - i'd have to go to NY. So i called NY and they said they had my name and I could come and pick up the visa. I went to NY. 2 trains and 2 buses. 5 hr travel time each way. Where they told me how strange it was that I had made marraige arrangements to a Swiss in CH and not in NY We have to check a few things, they said - come back in 2 days Again, 2 days later, I traveled the 5 hrs to NY, walked in and picked up the visa (30 second process)...then 5 hrs travel back home.... But, I got my visa(180 day long-term reunification visa), and i'm here. We'll be married within a week, and I hope getting the B permit doesn't end up being such a hassle....
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I am a US citizen. I came to visit my Swiss gf on a tourist visa, and we decided to get married. However, I needed to go back to the states for a few months first. We went to the zivilstandsamt to register to get married, and they told me that they would need a letter from migracion( stating that i would have a visa )before they could start on the paperwork. We went to migracion, and they told us they would need a letter from the zivistandsamt stating that we were getting married before they would give me a visa. After several phone calls, and a return visit to the zivilstandsamt, I was told that in order to marry my Swiss gf here in CH, I would first have to go to the Swiss Embassy in New York. By the time this all happened my flight was leaving shortly to go back to the US.. So I went back, but having used up every last day of my Schengen visa. My gf spoke with migracion and eventually(about a week before my flight back to CH) they said that everything was settled. Conveniently, they said I could pick up my visa from the consular office in Philadelphia. I called the Phila. office and they said that was impossible - i'd have to go to NY. So i called NY and they said they had my name and I could come and pick up the visa. I went to NY. 2 trains and 2 buses. 5 hr travel time each way. Where they told me how strange it was that I had made marraige arrangements to a Swiss in CH and not in NY We have to check a few things, they said - come back in 2 days Again, 2 days later, I traveled the 5 hrs to NY, walked in and picked up the visa (30 second process)...then 5 hrs travel back home.... But, I got my visa(180 day long-term reunification visa), and i'm here. We'll be married within a week, and I hope getting the B permit doesn't end up being such a hassle....
B-permit shouldn't give you any problems. Once you are registered at the Gemeinde and you receive your letter for Immigration, the process should be straight forward...Good luck and welcome...
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I am French currently living in Taiwan and married to a Taiwanese. I just had a job offer to work in Zurich and I would like to move there with my wife.
As EU citizen I will have no problem entering the country, same for my wife who can stay in Switzerland for 90 months in a 6 month period without visa.
We would like to enter the country together in order to look for an appartment, however I have read that we should apply for her "dependant visa" (regroupement familial in french) prior to her arrival in the country.

Is it possible for her to enter switzerland as a tourist (90 days) and start processing the dependent visa from here or does she need to wait in Taiwan until she receives her visa?

Also, if we enter the country together, what will happen if the process accidentally takes longer than 90 days? Is it extendable while having a visa processing?

Thank you very much in advance for your help.
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I would not risk it. The rules are different for people married to Swiss nationals. Yes, it can be done once you get here, but it depends entirely on the whim of the canton/commune you plan to live in. Some don't seem to worry too much about processing once you're here, but others can get very shirty about it. Be prepared for detailed questions on your relationship if you go that route as they will want to make sure this is a sham marriage to get her into the country. I would go the safe route and apply for the Type D visa in Taiwan as, until you get your own permit it's unlikely that landlords will want to sign a rental contract with you unless your company can back you up. There are so many people after properties in some parts of the country that they don't need to take a risk on someone who doesn't have his permit yet.

If you plan to visit Taiwan to see family/friends in the future then apply for a multi-entry visa and not a single entry one.
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...Be prepared for detailed questions on your relationship if you go that route as they will want to make sure this is NOT a sham marriage to get her into the country...
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