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Overstayed Visa

I have overstayed my visa and i have a job and apartment working as a nanny and dont plan to leave. Will i be able to travel to sweden in august without getting deported???? I am a U.S. citizen and 23 years old.
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Re: Overstayed Visa

sure, it's getting back in that will be your issue

eta according to your other posts you have only been here a month, how did you overstay your visa?? and how are you working as a nanny without a valid visa? you are breaking the law and the people employing you are also breaking the law
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I have overstayed my visa and i have a job and apartment working as a nanny and dont plan to leave.
It matters not what your plans are - without a valid visa you can't stay.

Without a visa you are working illegally - putting both you and your employer are at risk. Your employer could be facing hefty fines, you could be deported.

This is not a good idea. Seriously. Given that Switzerland is a Schegen member, screwing up your immigration record in one country may mean you have screwed your chances in the rest. Not. A. Good. Idea.

You need to regularize your status. ASAP.

Good luck.
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sure, it's getting back in that will be your issue

eta according to your other posts you have only been here a month, how did you overstay your visa?? and how are you working as a nanny without a valid visa? you are breaking the law and the people employing you are also breaking the law
Hm - maybe he's confused? As an American, he would only get an actual-physical visa in his passport if he needed it for entering the country (work, etc.) So maybe he got an entry visa and it has that three month window on which you can enter and he thinks the end of that is how long he can stay? To the OP, you have a resident permit, right? If so, then no worries.
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I have overstayed my visa and i have a job and apartment working as a nanny and dont plan to leave. Will i be able to travel to sweden in august without getting deported???? I am a U.S. citizen and 23 years old.
No, if you've overstayed your visa here, you've overstayed for ALL Schengen countries, of which Sweden is one.

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Re: Overstayed Visa

If you are longer in the country than your visa allows and if you entered on a visitors visa and are now working here, the Swiss often donīt take that too kindly. And re-entry into the country, there is a good chance the passport will be checked and re-entry would be disallowed.
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Re: Overstayed Visa

i was in vienna before i was in switzerland and thats why it is overstayed now. i have traveled from here to france and back and traveled in to switzerland without having the passport checked because all the countries where shenghan. I am aware that it is not legal to be here with an expired visa and that leaving i face a red stamp or fine. But if i stay in Shenghan does it mean that i will not be allowed back in Switzerland if i go to sweden??? I dont plan to leave back to america and i am working on setting up a business here. obtaining a work visa is not simple to do especially in switzerland because i have no college degree, so without a business its almost impossible.
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Re: Overstayed Visa

all i have is a 90 day permit that is now expired (i obtained when i flew in to Berlin). I know that i wont be deported or put in jail over it. But how would they not let me back in to switzerland??? They dont even need to see my passport because they are both shenghan territories right????
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i was in vienna before i was in switzerland and thats why it is overstayed now. i have traveled from here to france and back and traveled in to switzerland without having the passport checked because all the countries where shenghan. I am aware that it is not legal to be here with an expired visa and that leaving i face a red stamp or fine. But if i stay in Shenghan does it mean that i will not be allowed back in Switzerland if i go to sweden??? I dont plan to leave back to america and i am working on setting up a business here. obtaining a work visa is not simple to do especially in switzerland because i have no college degree, so without a business its almost impossible.
but by working you are breaking the law, as is your employer.

it's not about a Schengen visa but a proper work permit for Switzerland.

are you a troll?
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all i have is a 90 day permit that is now expired (i obtained when i flew in to Berlin). I know that i wont be deported or put in jail over it. But how would they not let me back in to switzerland??? They dont even need to see my passport because they are both shenghan territories right????
The legalities have been explained. If you are asking whether or not you will get caught breaking the law, that is for you to decide.
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Re: Overstayed Visa

am i a troll???? are you a fairy???
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Re: Overstayed Visa

So, you want to ask our advice on how to continue breaking the law? And, as pointed out, not only you, but your employers as well?
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i I dont plan to leave back to america and i am working on setting up a business here. obtaining a work visa is not simple to do especially in switzerland because i have no college degree, so without a business its almost impossible.

Immigration isn't as simple as picking up and moving - you MUST obtain a permit first.

Yes, it is difficult for a non-EU person to qualify for a permit - because Switzerland only wants and needs certain types of immigrants. That's the reality of the situation. The bar is higher for non-EU applicants. Meet it, and you have a chance to get in with appropriate sponsorship. Fall short of the bar, and you don't get to stay.


But permit issues aside:

You are shooting yourself in the foot. Think about what you have done... you are breaking the law, and have admitted to doing so here on a public forum. Yet you are trying to establish a business targeting the very customers who read these forums. Having shown a cavalier attitude to legalities, you have painted a picture of yourself that does not inspire trust - and trust is essential to getting a business started.


Seriously - you need to go back to the US and figure out how to legally immigrate to Switzerland.

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Re: Overstayed Visa

LISTEN.... I am well aware of the legalities that i am breaking by overstaying a visa. This was a simple question on what kind of problems i might have going to another Shenghan country. I am working on starting a business so i can obtain my residence permit/work visa. If you have nothing better to do that ask stupid questions and not help. Maybe you should get a life and go harass someone to their face instead of using the internet like a coward.
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LISTEN.... I am well aware of the legalities that i am breaking by overstaying a visa. This was a simple question on what kind of problems i might have going to another Shenghan country. I am working on starting a business so i can obtain my residence permit/work visa. If you have nothing better to do that ask stupid questions and not help. Maybe you should get a life and go harass someone to their face instead of using the internet like a coward.

ROFL.

Go back to square one, your home country , and enter a foreign country legally. You have overstayed in the Schengen zone. Same rules apply to all.
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Re: Overstayed Visa

Sorry i involved a personal question with this. I am not trying to troll or anything. I learned a lot from the people on here. My question is answered thank you for those of you who helped. I will figure out my work visa problems over the next couple of weeks. I obviously do not want to break any laws.

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LISTEN.... I am well aware of the legalities that i am breaking by overstaying a visa. This was a simple question on what kind of problems i might have going to another Shenghan country. I am working on starting a business so i can obtain my residence permit/work visa. If you have nothing better to do that ask stupid questions and not help. Maybe you should get a life and go harass someone to their face instead of using the internet like a coward.
But you can't start a business in order to get your permit, you need a permit and legitimate reason for being here in the 1st place before you even consider starting a business. Not to mention fulfilling other legal, financial and whatever other conditions.
I think you are naive in the extreme.
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LISTEN.... I am well aware of the legalities that i am breaking by overstaying a visa. This was a simple question on what kind of problems i might have going to another Shenghan country. I am working on starting a business so i can obtain my residence permit/work visa. If you have nothing better to do that ask stupid questions and not help. Maybe you should get a life and go harass someone to their face instead of using the internet like a coward.
You know you have to leave to apply and get a permit, right?

Also if you're Swissangelo, who is Dominic O'Brien?

Are you in Fribourg or Michigan?
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Re: Overstayed Visa

You are correct that in Schengen you do not need to show passport by mandate when you travel any longer, but you do need a valid form of photo ID to allow you to travel and my guess is that the passport is the only thing you have (ie no ID card or ausweis or similar)

So chances of being "caught" are high
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Re: Overstayed Visa

Usually when traveling within the Schengen your passport is not checked. In case it is checked you are likely to be deported with a stamp that you have overstayed.

In case it is discovered that you have been in the meantime working, you are likely to be barred from entering the Schengen area again. Establishing a business will need paper work - which again will show that you have overstayed. Entry into Schengen Vs date of application of permits in person?

The same would be the case if someone visited the US on a tourist / visit visa and worked illegally.
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