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Yes - Increase the current quota for non-EU qualified professionals. 3 12.50%
Yes - Introduce a new quota system where EU/non-EU qualified professionals are treated equally. 9 37.50%
No - Keep it the way it is. 12 50.00%
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Should Swiss Immigration Laws Change for Qualified Professionals?

Swiss (also German) employers seem to have problems filling open positions requiring qualified employees. Should the Swiss government alter its immigration policy?

a) Yes - Increase the current quota for non-EU qualified professionals.

b) Yes - Introduce a new quota system where EU/non-EU qualified professionals are treated equally.

c) No - Keep it the way it is.
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Old 27.07.2012, 12:18
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Swiss (also German) employers seem to have problems filling open positions requiring qualified employees. Should the Swiss government alter its immigration policy?

a) Yes - Increase the current quota for non-EU qualified professionals.

b) Yes - Introduce a new quota system where EU/non-EU qualified professionals are treated equally.

c) No - Keep it the way it is.
is there a quota? i thought it was generally easy to hire non-EU provided you demonstrate that there is no EU person suitable to do the job?
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Re: Should Swiss Immigration Laws Change for Qualified Professionals?

Non-EU nationals (per year):
5,000 L permits
3,500 B permits
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is there a quota? i thought it was generally easy to hire non-EU provided you demonstrate that there is no EU person suitable to do the job?
One anecdote does not a dataset make, but...

I know of a case where the company was denied permits for non-EU employees, despite searching unsuccessfully for six months. They were told to lower requirements so that a less-qualified CH/EU person could take the job.

(Job was moved to Singapore, where they had their pick of highly qualified candidates.)
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Swiss (also German) employers seem to have problems filling open positions requiring qualified employees.
Key word - seem.
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Non-EU nationals (per year):
5,000 L permits
3,500 B permits
and how many were issued to non-EU nationals in the previous years? i wonder if quotas are a real 'limit' or not...
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and how many were issued to non-EU nationals in the previous years? i wonder if quotas are a real 'limit' or not...
When I came to CH in 1994,British passport holder, there were only approx 850 B permits issued in the whole country EU had no advantage over non EU.

Since the requirement is to have skills not available in the CH or EU, 3,500 would seem quite generous.
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Re: Should Swiss Immigration Laws Change for Qualified Professionals?

It's not the government who decides in CH.
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Re: Should Swiss Immigration Laws Change for Qualified Professionals?

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Swiss (also German) employers seem to have problems filling open positions requiring qualified employees. Should the Swiss government alter its immigration policy?

a) Yes - Increase the current quota for non-EU qualified professionals.

b) Yes - Introduce a new quota system where EU/non-EU qualified professionals are treated equally.

c) No - Keep it the way it is.
I'll consider it when the US introduces a points based immigration policy for skilled professionals.
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Re: Should Swiss Immigration Laws Change for Qualified Professionals?

Well, as I understand it, the only time the quota places have run out is in 2008 - the year they halved the quota places, after the crisis.

Realistically, as signatories of the Schengen Agreement, Switzerland has to give priority to EU employees - they even have an agreement on recognition of tertiary qualifications, which I think is that in four months an EU person will have an answer on whether their diploma/degree is recognised in Switzerland. Those of us from beyond Europe have to wait a little longer ...
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