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L Permit, what is the difference between this and a B permit?

Hi all,

Well after going for a 'B' permit, I have been awarded an 'L' permit, as the authorities didn't think I was an Independent Consultant, but more of an employee of the 2 organizations I consult for (1 in the US, 1 in the States). Fair enough.

So my question is - what is the difference between these two permits.

PS - My work contract says that I will pay all AVS, medical insurance etc ..... so won't get any of it paid by my 'employers'

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Old 31.07.2012, 21:41
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Re: L Permit, what is the difference between this and a B permit?

Those two addresses will tell you the difference.

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...b_eu_efta.html

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...l_eu_efta.html
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Hi all,

Well after going for a 'B' permit, I have been awarded an 'L' permit, as the authorities didn't think I was an Independent Consultant,
Maybe it was a test. Maybe they are watching to see if you could find out the answer to this yourself. Maybe - they thought - if he can use Google, he is truly Independent and will survive here.

But you posted here instead of finding out yourself and an L permit is what Dependent Consultants get - you blew it.

Sorry dude
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Re: L Permit, what is the difference between this and a B permit?

You might be able to appeal, as one member recently did.
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Re: L Permit, what is the difference between this and a B permit?

Well, there we go. The "realistic" boys have outwitted the "optimistic girl"!
Ah, well. Sorry, kid!
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Well, there we go. The "realistic" boys have outwitted the "optimistic girl"!
Ah, well. Sorry, kid!
Hey, but thanks for your support, it was appreciated!!!

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Maybe it was a test. Maybe they are watching to see if you could find out the answer to this yourself. Maybe - they thought - if he can use Google, he is truly Independent and will survive here.

But you posted here instead of finding out yourself and an L permit is what Dependent Consultants get - you blew it.

Sorry dude
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Hey, but thanks for your support, it was appreciated!!!
Yeah. But they are probably going to make me buy the beer.

I hope you figure something out. As per the other thread you can go through a payroll company.
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Well after going for a 'B' permit, I have been awarded an 'L' permit, as the authorities didn't think I was an Independent Consultant, but more of an employee of the 2 organizations I consult for (1 in the US, 1 in the States). Fair enough.

So my question is - what is the difference between these two permits.
What is the difference between the US and the States?
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Hi all,

Well after going for a 'B' permit, I have been awarded an 'L' permit, as the authorities didn't think I was an Independent Consultant, but more of an employee of the 2 organizations I consult for (1 in the US, 1 in the States). Fair enough.

So my question is - what is the difference between these two permits.

PS - My work contract says that I will pay all AVS, medical insurance etc ..... so won't get any of it paid by my 'employers'

Thanks

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L ("Loser") Permit

B ("Big") Permit

C ("Colossal") Permit
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Yeah. But they are probably going to make me buy the beer.

I hope you figure something out. As per the other thread you can go through a payroll company.
Thanks, any idea of who would be good, or the costs involved? I would happily buy the drinks!

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sorry, meant one in US, one in Canada - its been a long day!

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I like to call them the following:

L ("Loser") Permit

B ("Big") Permit

C ("Colossal") Permit
Thanks, really helpful!

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sorry, meant one in US, one in Canada - its been a long day!
What is the difference between the US and Canada?

The main difference between L and B permits is that an L permit is usually valid for one year only (but often renewable) while a B permit is valid for up to 5 years and virtually automatically renewable (as a C permit, after 5 years), provided you're not overly naughty.

The shorter validity of the L permit can pose problems -- for example, some landlords won't rent to L permit-holders becasue they may stay for less than a year.

There are lots of other differences, including the right to buy property in some cantons ... hours of fun to be had on Google.
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Re: L Permit, what is the difference between this and a B permit?

Thanks, I only intend to stay a year so that should be fine - but from your response I guess it is very similar re taxation etc too?
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Re: L Permit, what is the difference between this and a B permit?

Makes no difference to taxation (at least as a salaried employee) -- on B or L, you will be taxed at source ("pay as you earn" tax, or Quellensteuer in German/impõt à la source in French), at the average rate for your canton. Depending on whether you have assets/income outside Switzerland, and on the amount you earn in CH, you may be asked to complete an income tax return. If you have significant deductions, it would be in your interest to volunteer to submit a return.

Now be nice to Caviarchips. He has a point -- generally, it's good netiquette to search for answers before asking forum folks to invest time to respond to your queries.
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Makes no difference to taxation (at least as a salaried employee) -- on B or L, you will be taxed at source ("pay as you earn" tax, or Quellensteuer in German), at the average rate for your canton. Depending on whether you have assets/income outside Switzerland, and on the amount you earn in CH, you may be asked to complete an income tax return. If you have significant deductions, it would be in your interest to volunteer to submit a return.

Now be nice to Caviarchips. He has a point -- generally, it's good netiquette to search for answers before asking forum folks to invest time to respond to your queries.
Thanks for that. I have to pay my 'employers contribution' as part of our deal, but have n idea where to look for the info - guess, I'll have to find a good tax man. I have property in Europe but am struggling to pay that as it is as wife and kid live in it and they cant relocate due to schooling issues. Ok, caviarchips, I apologize...better :-)
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