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With the C permit - live in FR work in CH, chg to taxation at source possible ?

I have two quick questions regarding a Permit C...

1. Can I live in France but still work in Switzerland
2. Can I still have the swiss governtment tax me at the source rather then file..

any help would really be great.

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Re: With the C permit - live in FR work in CH, chg to taxation at source possible ?

I'm not sure you will be able to retain your C permit in the first place.

A C Permit is valid for as long as you remain in Switzerland unless you apply for a 4 year suspension if you temporarily move abroad or unless you commit acts that can lead to it's revocation.

If you are non-EU, you would have a tough time getting a G Permit.
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Re: With the C permit - live in FR work in CH, chg to taxation at source possible ?

As per the above, I think you would be classed as leaving Switzerland and lose your permit. If you live in France, you would be taxed in France. Even on the off chance that you didn't lose your permit altogether, changing to a C permit automatically puts you onto the normal system from the date the C permit is issued (even if your employer accidentally pays source tax for you for another month or two - this will be credited once you complete your tax return for the year).
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Re: With the C permit - live in FR work in CH, chg to taxation at source possible ?

I'm on a C and would to be taxed at source as well. No way to do it that I know of...
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Re: With the C permit - live in FR work in CH, chg to taxation at source possible ?

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I'm on a C and would to be taxed at source as well. No way to do it that I know of...
I'm wondering why people prefer to be taxed at source? Is it so you already have a net salary when it arrives in your bank account? To avoid the need to do a tax return? If the former, then surely setting up a standing order into a separate "tax" savings account has the same effect? If you do it for the amount that your source tax would be, then you're going to be in the right ballpark when it comes to paying your tax bill and shouldn't have too many nasty surprises...
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I'm wondering why people prefer to be taxed at source? Is it so you already have a net salary when it arrives in your bank account? To avoid the need to do a tax return? If the former, then surely setting up a standing order into a separate "tax" savings account has the same effect? If you do it for the amount that your source tax would be, then you're going to be in the right ballpark when it comes to paying your tax bill and shouldn't have too many nasty surprises...
They don't want to pay French tax, if the work in some CH cantons they are not liable to French tax if 90% of their income is from working in CH. It depends , need specifics as always!
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Re: With the C permit - live in FR work in CH, chg to taxation at source possible ?

If you're working in Geneva but living across the border you'll be taxed at source and be issued with a frontalier permit. You'll have to fill in both a swiss and a french tax form and possibly having to pay a top-up to the french, depending on your income. Geneva then hands over a portion of their tax to the french region you're living in.
I think Geneva is the only canton that does this, everywhere else you pay tax in France and the Swiss claim back a proportion from them.

Use 'search', it has been discussed on here before.

If you're an american you might not be even allowed to live in France and work in Switzerland.... so taxation question is irrelevant.

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They don't want to pay French tax, if the work in some CH cantons they are not liable to French tax if 90% of their income is from working in CH. It depends , need specifics as always!
But the poster I quoted is in Aargau...? If you live outside CH but earn your salary here, chances are you will end up completing 2 x tax returns and likely owe to both governments so the whole shebang is complicated. But, as you say, the devil is in the detail
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