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ScrollLock 20.08.2012 14:11

Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Hi All,

Ive been married to the Swiss wife now for about 6 years, now have young Swiss kids, and understand that I can apply for Swiss Naturalisation.

Perhaps a daft question - What do I need to do? Heard all government parties need to agree.
Do I need to ask Gemeinde Effretikon, then Canton Zurich, then Swiss Federal gov?

If I understand correctly, Gemeinde and Canton can put on further restrictions on that. Despite a search, Im not sure what these restrictions are, and who I should contact, etc

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

eng_ch 20.08.2012 14:19

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
First port of call should normally be your Gemeinde who should give you the forms, which you complete and send in directly to Zurich (details on the form). At least, that's the case for regular naturalisation and I can't imagine the start of the process would be much different in your situation. In any case, I'd talk to your Gemeinde first

st2lemans 20.08.2012 14:28

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
As I recall, I went through my local gemeinde, even though they probably have no say in the matter, as it is totally up to the Heimatort town and canton of your spouse, and NOT that of residence (unless for some reason you actually reside in your spouse's Heimatort)!

Tom

ScrollLock 21.08.2012 09:30

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 1640101)
As I recall, I went through my local gemeinde, even though they probably have no say in the matter, as it is totally up to the Heimatort town and canton of your spouse, and NOT that of residence (unless for some reason you actually reside in your spouse's Heimatort)!

Tom

Thanks Tom. My wifes heimatort is in a bfn area in country Switzerland, we've both talked now about her shifting it to Effretikon (pretty easy for her actually).

Looks like Im going for a facilitated naturalisation actually,
was sent this link:
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...recht/faq.html


Not stated anywhere on the website I have to do a test or interview, however Ive seen here on the forums that I'll need to do a rather tricky test. (tricky in that my German language skills are light)

Hoping somone will magically tell me such interviews aren't necessary any more :msngrin:

Guest 21.08.2012 10:33

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrollLock (Post 1640937)
Not stated anywhere on the website I have to do a test or interview, however Ive seen here on the forums that I'll need to do a rather tricky test. (tricky in that my German language skills are light)

Hoping somone will magically tell me such interviews aren't necessary any more :msngrin:

My "interview" was a two minute phone call from the local police.

st2lemans 21.08.2012 11:05

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

My "interview" was a two minute phone call from the local police.
Miine was a 10 minute visit to the local police, who happened to be my neighbor, think we spent more time talking about another asshole neighbor than anything else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrollLock (Post 1640937)

Interesting tidbit in there: "The Swiss spouse must have been of Swiss citizenship before marriage."

Several people on this forum are spouses of naturalised Swiss, and thus, according to this, NOT eligible for facilitated naturalisation (unless married AFTER becoming Swiss)! :eek:

Something to remember.

Tom

ScrollLock 22.08.2012 01:47

1 Attachment(s)
Thanks all for the help, very helpful and much appreciated.

Received the following document
"Simplified naturalisation of the foreign spouse of a Swiss citizen living abroad"
attached here.

Discusses General Requirements, and procedures. Hope it helps others.

st2lemans 22.08.2012 08:34

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
But that's for those living abroad, not those living in Switzerland (different rules apply).

Tom

jsherk 04.09.2012 15:04

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 1641975)
But that's for those living abroad, not those living in Switzerland (different rules apply).

Tom

Tom, I believe it is for those living outside CH, married for 6>years and having close ties to CH. It is also for those married to a Swiss spouse and having lived in CH 5> years. It's the form I was sent as well, living in Zurich after being married and living in the US for the prior 4+years and now having been here the last 4+years.

Qublacan 04.09.2012 20:45

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrollLock (Post 1641935)
Thanks all for the help, very helpful and much appreciated.

Received the following document
"Simplified naturalisation of the foreign spouse of a Swiss citizen living abroad"
attached here.

Discusses General Requirements, and procedures. Hope it helps others.

Great ... this is the first time I see this document and it clears a lot about the 6 year rule that I had questions about.... thanks for the link!

samwei 03.12.2015 16:49

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Hello

Hoping someone can give me some feedback. Looking for some answers regarding Simplified Naturalization.

I acquired my Swiss citizenship through a previous marriage over 20 years ago and have remarried since. Have 2 kids with my present husband.

Do my children have a right to be Swiss nationals? If yes, how easy, or complex a process is it?

Thanks for response

Medea Fleecestealer 03.12.2015 17:06

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
If they were born after you gained Swiss citizenship, yes I think so.

7. Article 58a Naturalization Act
A foreign child, from the marriage of a Swiss woman to a foreign national, who has close links with Switzerland.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...uergerung.html

Island Monkey 03.12.2015 17:09

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samwei (Post 2497508)
Hello

Hoping someone can give me some feedback. Looking for some answers regarding Simplified Naturalization.

I acquired my Swiss citizenship through a previous marriage over 20 years ago and have remarried since. Have 2 kids with my present husband.

Do my children have a right to be Swiss nationals? If yes, how easy, or complex a process is it?

Thanks for response

If they were born after you became Swiss, they should be automatically Swiss at birth.

Medea Fleecestealer 03.12.2015 17:16

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Island Monkey (Post 2497518)
If they were born after you became Swiss, they should be automatically Swiss at birth.

That was my initial assumption too Island Monkey, but Article 58a seems to contradict that. As samwei is based in France I'm assuming her husband is a "foreign national". Guess it may depend on where the kids were born - here or in another country.

st2lemans 03.12.2015 18:32

Re: Applying for Simplified naturalisation, Effretikon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Medea Fleecestealer (Post 2497522)
That was my initial assumption too Island Monkey, but Article 58a seems to contradict that. As samwei is based in France I'm assuming her husband is a "foreign national". Guess it may depend on where the kids were born - here or in another country.

The english translation leaves out a lot of info. :rolleyes:

This is only for those born before 1 July 1985.

Those born after are automatically Swiss (as per the I and F versions) ;)

Tom


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