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Hey there

I've been reading all different kind of topics in this message board for days now. I already found a lot of informations but I still have a few unanswered questions.

I am a Swiss resident and work full-time for a bank. I lived in the States for a year and worked as an Au Pair (2010/2011). During this time I met my current boyfriend. Since this long distance isn't an option for us anymore, he would like to move to Switzerland.

Now here are my questions: My boyfriend has a university degree, but no Bachelor. His only work experience is from working at the YMCA as a fitness consultant. Right now he has no job.
This is the part that worries me a lot. He would really work anywhere. He would clean, work outside etc. The salary isn't a huge point at the moment. We just want to be able to be closer to each other. And NO - marriage is not an option yet. This is also why we want to live together first for a while.

Do you think he has ANY chance to get a job? Like a cleaning job or whatever?
And how should we procede. I read that it might be easiest of he comes here and applies for jobs right here than applying from the States.

I would highly apprectiate your comments and thoughts.
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Old 12.09.2012, 23:30
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Hey there

I've been reading all different kind of topics in this message board for days now. I already found a lot of informations but I still have a few unanswered questions.

I am a Swiss resident and work full-time for a bank. I lived in the States for a year and worked as an Au Pair (2010/2011). During this time I met my current boyfriend. Since this long distance isn't an option for us anymore, he would like to move to Switzerland.

Now here are my questions: My boyfriend has a university degree, but no Bachelor. His only work experience is from working at the YMCA as a fitness consultant. Right now he has no job.
This is the part that worries me a lot. He would really work anywhere. He would clean, work outside etc. The salary isn't a huge point at the moment. We just want to be able to be closer to each other. And NO - marriage is not an option yet. This is also why we want to live together first for a while.

Do you think he has ANY chance to get a job? Like a cleaning job or whatever?
And how should we procede. I read that it might be easiest of he comes here and applies for jobs right here than applying from the States.

I would highly apprectiate your comments and thoughts.
It's unlikely he would be able to find traditional work. A company that would want to hire him would have to show that they couldn't find anyone Swiss or EU to take the job, and that requires some level of specialization. For cleaning and service type jobs, this is unlikely.

If he is still young and interested in taking care of kids, there are possibilities of being an au pair - he would need to apply through an au pair agency.

If he came here and gave it a shot anyway, he would have three months on a tourist visa, during which time, he is technically not supposed to be job-seeking, but people do anyway.
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

Probably very difficult to get a work permit, that will be harder than the job itself

Can he study here? Might be easier, but more expensive
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Old 12.09.2012, 23:42
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

I was in a similar situation a couple of years back and there is no way, that he will find a job. The best thing is to get married, but even then, it is very difficult as his qualification aren't necessarily recognized in Switzerland and he would definitely have to be fluent in the local language where you reside.
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

My friend is/was in similar situation - came on a student permit to be with the Swiss boyfriend but had a hard time to find a job (a uni degree but no bachelor, company would have to get the working permit). Now they decided to get married which solves the working permit problem.

But hope it works out for you!
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

Thank you so much for your answers. That is almost what I expected...
We have another option which we might consider... There are US military bases in Germany which offer jobs for people with no college degree etc.
But I know this does not belong in this thread!

Thank you guys so much!
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Now here are my questions: My boyfriend has a university degree, but no Bachelor.
Sorry to barge in here, but how can he have a university degree but not a Bachelor?

As said by others, it is more or less impossible for him to get a visa unfortunately...
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

He has a 2-year associate degree from a community college!
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Old 14.09.2012, 17:46
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

I have a thermometer and am a single man.

So, i have degrees and a bachelor.

But thats about as much as I have.

I do have European passport though, take that America, POW!

Sorry, useless post, other than exemplifying that degrees, masters, bachelors, letters, and all that crap, are basically, crap.
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I have a thermometer and am a single man.

So, i have degrees and a bachelor.

But thats about as much as I have.

I do have European passport though, take that America, POW!

Sorry, useless post, other than exemplifying that degrees, masters, bachelors, letters, and all that crap, are basically, crap.
True, but at least it made me smile so thanks for that.
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It means that in theory he can spell.

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Old 14.09.2012, 19:24
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

Go and ask in a fitness studio if they would employ an american with experience.
I know, you don't need any previous experience in those places, they train you.
Look for studios which are especially for english speakers.
You never know...
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It means that in theory he can spell.
yes, yes I know it's not a super awesome degree. I just wanted to answer Frank2K's question
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Go and ask in a fitness studio if they would employ an american with experience.
I know, you don't need any previous experience in those places, they train you.
Look for studios which are especially for english speakers.
You never know...
The problem is getting the permit. I expect there are plenty of Swiss and EU people who would be ahead of him in the permit queue for a job like that.
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

Only thing I see is he will not easily get in. Best if he comes for three months then comes back till you decide to get married or not. Still with his background for a job it will be hard to find work later. I came and went for several years till we got married but never did find work in my area of training. Took other jobs to get by and it was very hard.
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Just a thought, does anyone know what the situation would be assuming this boyfriend came up with a business idea here? I dunno say fitness training, or life coaching online. Does that require a work permit if you start your own business?
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Yes, it does and you have to be very careful about being "self employed" or sole trader type company here. The thing is, you don't decide you're self employed, the Swiss authorities do. So you would need to come up with a business plan that has at least 3 different clients who are going to employ your services. They will look at the details and make a decision on whether you qualify as self employed. And you still have the problem of quota limits for non-Swiss, non-EU citizens. Plus most banks here are not welcoming American citizens due to the new FATCA laws which come into operation next year so opening a bank account is also difficult to do.
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...Since this long distance isn't an option for us anymore, he would like to move to Switzerland... And NO - marriage is not an option yet. This is also why we want to live together first for a while.
Sounds like you are in a difficult spot. I wonder though, what about the long-distance relationship is not working. Is it that you can't see each other very often? I hope you use Skype to the fullest advantage. Travel back and forth can get expensive if one of the two doesn't have a job. Mr. Wishes and I were long-distance USA to CH for two years (but together far longer than that) before we finally married. It can work.

That said, every couple is unique. I have a hard time understanding how him moving to a country he doesn't know, where he probably doesn't speak the language, and has no special job skills to help him crack the market...is going to HELP your relationship if it is already under strain.

I wish you the best, and if you'd like more on my personal experience you can PM me.
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Re: american boyfriend want to move

Hi,
Im in the same situation.. I found and still find no permanenent work here. Im married to a swiss. He will need to at the very least to speak german.. unless he wants to volunteer or keep on studying. Or just get a lucky break.. unlikely.It really is not easy here.
I have a bunch of mates who give me work when they have it , but im not professional here.I came from Tanania , from the bush , with lions !!!.
I can move containers, forward freight, dynamite a road, drill a mining site, and on and on and on.. but i cant even get a job here as a gardener.
I do wish you all the best.. its not impossible here but do your homework first. Best of luck..
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Only thing I see is he will not easily get in. Best if he comes for three months then comes back till you decide to get married or not. Still with his background for a job it will be hard to find work later. I came and went for several years till we got married but never did find work in my area of training. Took other jobs to get by and it was very hard.
I go with him coming on the 3 month tourist visa, depending on your both your agreeable finances, to see the lie of the land, how you both feel about each other and any future possibilities of his finding work here.

That said you did mention in another previous posting another possibility.
Good Luck and with the backing of your family along the way, that might help also
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