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Old 30.11.2007, 11:19
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Working with a non EU dependant B permit

I currently have a non EU B permit that is dependant on my wife's working restricted non EU B permit. I recently have been offered a job in another Kanton ( Kanton Aargua, our current permits are for Kanton ZH ) and need to resolve the permit issue. I know others who have been able to work on the same dependant B permit after following a very simple process, however my future employer said:

Die Bewilligung von Herrn Ado ist nur eine Aufenthaltsbewilligung und keine Arbeitsbewilligung.

Das heisst, ihr müsstet einen ganz normalen Antrag für einen Drittstaatler ausfüllen mit Strafregisterauszug, Begründung etc.

Is this correct? Do I really need to start from scratch? If not who can I speak to to confirm the process.

Many thanks for any help.
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I currently have a non EU B permit that is dependant on my wife's working restricted non EU B permit. I recently have been offered a job in another Kanton ( Kanton Aargua, our current permits are for Kanton ZH ) and need to resolve the permit issue. I know others who have been able to work on the same dependant B permit after following a very simple process, however my future employer said:

Die Bewilligung von Herrn Ado ist nur eine Aufenthaltsbewilligung und keine Arbeitsbewilligung.

Das heisst, ihr müsstet einen ganz normalen Antrag für einen Drittstaatler ausfüllen mit Strafregisterauszug, Begründung etc.

Is this correct? Do I really need to start from scratch? If not who can I speak to to confirm the process.

Many thanks for any help.
Fully correct.
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Old 30.11.2007, 11:40
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Thanks for the quick reply
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Old 30.11.2007, 16:16
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

As a follow up. As I have a valid Aufenthaltsbewilligung why can I not simply get an Arbeitsbewilligung by completing a Stellenantritt form found at:

http://www.arbeitsbewilligungen.zh.c...gehoerige.html

Is this because the job offer is not in the Kanton I live in ?
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

The application must be made in the canton where the position is opened.
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Hello
I have a same situation, dependant of my spouse, work in a canton different from mine.

Then I apply for a working permit at my living canton.

No problem arises from then
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Update.

I have be told that as of 1st January the law has changed. Even though I will be working in Aargau while dependant on my wife'ws working Zürich permit I do not need a standalone B permit to work. So now all that needs to be done to work is to ensure that the authorities have been informed !
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Dear Ado,

I saw this old thread started by you - not sure if you can update me on this - what happened finaly?

I am also a non-eu on a B permit - staying in Switzerland for the past one year and my wife is also here with me since then - she has a dependent B permit and has just been offered an employment in a company - will she have any issues getting a work permit?

I read some rules that Spouses of residence & work pemit holders who have a residence permit are allowed to work?

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Old 31.01.2008, 23:33
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Hi Samsan,

In the end it was very simple, helped very much by a rule change that took effect on 1st Jan.

The Aargau Amt sent my work visa application back saying due to the rule change they did not even want to know that I had a job.

The Zurich Amt ( the Kanton we live in and were my wifes B permit was issued ) likewise said that they do not need to know either. The Zurich Amt also said they also did not need to know that my wife, the holder of the permit that is allowing us to live here, lost her job as this issue will be considered went our permits are next up for renewal.

So it would appear if you are here with a dependant non working B permit dependant on someone with a restricted one employer non EU permit you can work anywhere without the need to tell anyone. Very unswiss. I know my swiss HR person was a bit unconfortable about this but in the end no one wanted to know.
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Thanks Ado for the update.

Would you also know anything about the Limited B permit (3 year) - would the same rule apply in this case?

My permit (L) has been sent for renewal now and we have applied for a limited B (3 year) - would the same rule apply for L & the Limited B?

Thanks!
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Old 01.02.2008, 19:29
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Hi Samsan,

We have a limited B ( 4 years ) so yes what I said does apply for your B.

Regarding your L permit, I am sorry I cannot help you
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Thanks Ado!

We will now see when the time comes for us :-)

Cheers!
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

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Update.

I have be told that as of 1st January the law has changed. Even though I will be working in Aargau while dependant on my wife'ws working Zürich permit I do not need a standalone B permit to work. So now all that needs to be done to work is to ensure that the authorities have been informed !
I have a non-EU dependent b permit and have been having a hard time finding a company who is willing to hire me and do the paperwork to convert it to the one with work authorization. Can someone please tell me what this law is that changed as of Jan 1st? Did the procedure for converting the permit change? I live in Geneva. Thanks!
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Hello everyone! I've been reading this forum from time to time for the last few months, but now I really need an advice. I've got dependant non-EU L-permit, my boyfriend who comes from EU and started working has received B permit. We are still not married, but we have lived together before, so it counts as 'concubinat'. Currently I have a good job with a recognised EU state body in Kazakhstan (where I went after finishing my Master's in Germany). Altogether I have over 4 years of work experience in finance, out of which over 1 year in banking field (international). I started applying for jobs but I don't want to move to Switzerland without finding something, since I hate to stay at home being a housewife. I think my CV is quite good for my age, and few recruitment companies got interested, I had a phone interview, till they saw my residence permit (which states L-type, 'erwerblos'). After that the answer was 'they can't help me'. I don't know what to do now. We are planning to get married in 2009, and not this year. Is there any chance at all to find a job? I have tried few recruitment agencies and direct application. Thank you in advance for the advice, and sorry if this has been already discussed.
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Just to share my wife's experience.

I hold a non-EU permit B based on a 3-year expatriate contract. My wife does not want to stop her career and get a job offer from an international company.

We were so confused with the work permit after reading so many threads here.

After consulting the Arbeitsamt in Schaffhausen, we were told that my wife, a dependent Permit B holder, does not need to apply any work permit as long as I am working in Switzerland.

We were even told that it will be very easy for me to apply a work permit if my expatriate contract expired.
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

I have gone though this and the othe Non.EU bullet points thread, but one point is yet not clear.

If someone is working on a dependant B permit, and the original B permit holder has to leave the country, would the working dependant have to leave as well ? In case not, then would the working depandant person have to then leave when the permit expires (yearly renewing B permit for an open ended contract)? or can the person apply for a renewal on his/her own right ? and then the spouse that left, can then become the depandant..?

Would greatly appreciate an answer. Thanks.
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Hi

Have been to this forum many times and got many useful info. Though I was unable to contribute so much I did few. I have the same question as of pickles. Can someone help us with this? This is something what many non EU are really wanting to know. Thanks in advance!

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I have gone though this and the othe Non.EU bullet points thread, but one point is yet not clear.

If someone is working on a dependant B permit, and the original B permit holder has to leave the country, would the working dependant have to leave as well ? In case not, then would the working depandant person have to then leave when the permit expires (yearly renewing B permit for an open ended contract)? or can the person apply for a renewal on his/her own right ? and then the spouse that left, can then become the depandant..?

Would greatly appreciate an answer. Thanks.
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

My advice would be to ask your employer to enquire on your behalf...because it is really them that has the arrangement with the immigration authorities.

I'm guessing the permits would have to be transferred or re-issues but how this happens in practice I am not sure...

What I do know is that it seems to be easier once you are here and established to get these sorts of things sorted out - not as difficult as getting that first permit or the L to B conversion...
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

Hi Swiss pea

Thanks for your immediate response. I will definitely move through my employer. But before that I just wished to discuss it here as this is well discussed in EF. Me and my spouse live in Switzerland and hold a B permit. My permit is dependant on my non EU spouse who works here on a restricted B Permit. I got a job offer and what will happen if my spouse's contract gets over? Thanks!

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My advice would be to ask your employer to enquire on your behalf...because it is really them that has the arrangement with the immigration authorities.

I'm guessing the permits would have to be transferred or re-issues but how this happens in practice I am not sure...

What I do know is that it seems to be easier once you are here and established to get these sorts of things sorted out - not as difficult as getting that first permit or the L to B conversion...
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Re: Working with a non EU dependant B permit

If your spouse's contract ends, and you still have a job, then I think it would be your spouse's permit that would have a problem. Once you've been here for a certain time, you can get unemployment benefits, and your permit can actually be renewed within the benefit period...

I can't imagine sending my husband home to work while I continued to work in Switzerland...so I guess I'd be planning on him finding something else pretty fast if his contract was terminated for any reason - and permits would be the least of our worries since he is the primary income earner...
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