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I've been breaking the law traveling to Germany

I am non EU (colombian) married to a british. I moved to Switzerland from Holland 4 months ago and wasn't required to have a Swiss visa for coming to visit the country before. The Swiss embassy in Holland told me that I only needed to carry the dutch residence permit and only get a visa when I was leaving Holland to settle in Switzerland. So I asummed that it was the same going from Switzerland to EU countries and I have traveled about 10 or 12 times to Holland by car (swiss plates) and only last week the french customs stopped us at the German/French border (yes, from Germany entering France) they took our passports, looked at them for a few minutes, never asked for any visas, only if we had anything to declare so we said no. Took our passports back and continue our journey.

I didn't know I needed a visa to go to EU countries until today (honestly). I guess I have just been lucky.

I have planned a visit to the UK for the holidays and got my British visa so now I am needing another visa to travel through France? We never get stopped at the border in Basel but will be asked for one coming back from the UK to France.

I still have a dutch residence permit which it says is valid until January 2009 but not technically as I don't reside in Holland anymore. They never took it away when I left Holland.

Does anybody know if it is legal to travel through France from the UK with a Swiss B permit and a visit visa for the UK?

Somebody asked this question in the Schengen post but nobody answer...

Thanks...

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Old 02.12.2007, 20:02
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Re: I've been breaking the law traveling to Germany

As far as I know you need a schengen visa to travel through France.
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Re: I've been breaking the law traveling to Germany

gosh... I'm going to have to risk it and play the "I still live in Holland" with my dutch Residence permit.
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Old 02.12.2007, 20:12
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gosh... I'm going to have to risk it and play the "I still live in Holland" with my dutch Residence permit.
a word of warning - show but don't speak. Volunteer only the basic information when asked.

I think to get a Brit passport, you have to live in the UK with your spouse for three years? That's not an option, I assume....
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Old 02.12.2007, 21:41
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gosh... I'm going to have to risk it and play the "I still live in Holland" with my dutch Residence permit.
Why not just get the required permit? If you get caught and they decide to deport you, they will most probably send you back to your home country....

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Re: I've been breaking the law traveling to Germany

Thanks for your replies...

Yes, I'll start phoning tomorrow and see... They might see that the UK visa was issued in Geneva therefore I have residence in CH.

If it takes too long I will have to travel by plane as that's the only way I would not need a transit visa as long as I don't leave the airport...

Thanks really...

Man, this sucks...
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Old 02.12.2007, 22:39
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Re: I've been breaking the law traveling to Germany

I don't understand all the intricacies of your situation, but if you need to avoid the UK to France route then you could always take the ferry from Harwich, UK to Hoek van Holland, Netherlands. I don't know whether it would help, but I thought that I'd mention it just in case you were not aware of this option.
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Re: I've been breaking the law traveling to Germany

Thank you for all your replies...

I've been looking online all night and finally found this... From an official site. http://www.europa.admin.ch/themen/00...x.html?lang=en

Schengen: transit visa

Dispensation of visa requirement for transit visas for foreigners living in Switzerland as of 10 July 2006.No more transit visa required for citizens from other countries living in Switzerland since July 10, 2006

Citizens from other countries (in possession of a B, C or Ci residence permit or a legitimation card of the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs) who live in Switzerland or in Liechtenstein require a Schengen visa in order to enter the Schengen area. They will no longer be subject to this requirement when the Schengen/Dublin association agreements enter into force. This will probably be in 2008.

In order to improve the situation of citizens who would like to transit through the Schengen area before 2008, the EU has decided to simplify travel formalities. As of July 10, 2006 they no longer need a transit visa. The transit through the Schengen area, however, has to be completed within five days.

It is important to stress that this visa exemption is only valid for transit purposes. In other cases (i.e. tourism, shopping, visits in the Schengen area), the visa obligation remains until the Schengen/Dublin association agreements enter into force.
Citizens from other countries living in Switzerland or Liechtenstein have to be in possession of a valid travel document that is accepted by the Schengen countries. The transit visa exemption is valid in all current Schengen countries (15 old member States, except the United Kingdom and Ireland), as well as Slovenia and other new EU member states, that also apply the travel facilitation. For further information, please contact the consulates of these countries.

Thanks... I hope this post help another people that might be in my situation...

After I come back from the UK I will start my schengen visa process though...
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After I come back from the UK I will start my schengen visa process though...
How about applying for a British passport if your wife is British?
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I think to get a Brit passport, you have to live in the UK with your spouse for three years? That's not an option, I assume....
suggested and also acknowledged what is actually required to get a UK passport....do please read the thread.

I also assume Barbie has a husband not a wife....
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Old 02.12.2007, 23:10
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suggested and also acknowledged what is actually required to get a UK passport....do please read the thread.

I also assume Barbie has a husband not a wife....
My bad. I meant she could move to UK for three years get her passport and come back to Switzerland Then she will be set forever. I was thinking long term.
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