Hi,

Finally, I am living and working in CH. I have a B permit. My question remains.

I am an EU citizen. My girlfriend is from non EU-country. She is still living and working in her country and we are separate. And this is sad.
I am only 4 months in CH and I dont know exactly I need to do in order to bring her here with me.

I know that the answer to this is to marry her.
My question is: Can I marry her here in CH? Or should we go to my country or to hers. Is there any other country where we can do this faster if not here in CH? How fast is this process? I mean from the day that we will get married until the day she will have her permit.

I was thinking to go to the HR of the company where I work and ask them if they know what we can do about it. Not about marriage...but in general.
Or maybe I should go to the Kanton and ask them?

Please if you have any advice or any experience on this topic...let me know.


Thank you

Hi

I am not really an expert on this but here is my opinion:

1. She can apply for jobs here (like in the other thread I responded to) but this is not so easy. Not impossible, but not easy.

2. She can visit you up to 6 months of the year, 3 months at a time on a visitor visa. You could visit her during the other periods.

3. If she is a girlfriend and you have no way of showing any level of co- habitation it would be hard I think for you to have her come here on your B permit. Usually it involves marriage, but there might be some variations to this where partners have lived together for a long time and can provide their de facto relationship (but others on here might know more about this).

I am not sure what land would be best to marry in. From a document point of view if you can marry in Switzerland this would make things a bit easier as marriage documentation is in Swiss language etc. Russian documentation would need translation etc.

Good luck with everything.

concerning the weding part (not sure if you can avoid it...), allow a couple of weeks (you need to book the appointment at the city hall at least 2 weeks in advance).
Better though call the Amtshaus (http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/portal/d...tshaeuser.html) to get the latest info.

I assume that she will also get the B permit (almost) immediately, but better ask the Migrationsamt (http://www.ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherh...rnational.html).

Good luck!

It's very difficult and unless your girlfdriend has some exceptionaly specila skills emplyoment is whilst feasible in theory, in practice is non existant.

I think it is clear that her chances to come here and get a permit through a company are really limited.

We love each other and we are planning to get married asap. We are already 3,5 years together...

I am not very clear if there is any chance to deny her a permit after our marriage. How is possible? I think it is really stupid if there is any such chance.

First without marriage, she can come here for 3 months twice a year...

You can marry wherever you want to, although from administrative point of view it would probably be easier in one of your countries.

To get the permit can take a while, but you can get a temporary permit (cant remember the german name) which means even though she has not got the permit she is allowed to stay in Switzerland after you are married.

good luck!

If you are an "EU citizen" they can't refuse to give a permit to your future wife, but you have to sign e.g. that she will not go on welfare and that she is your responsibility etc...

I think it needs to be your wife, present tense rather than future tense....

I meant wife to be, since he is not married yet

Are you marrying her only for the sole reason that she can come and live in Switzerland OR is it because you really love her and feel it's the right thing to do?

I could imagine (I do not know for a fact though) that non EU couples getting married this way could be viewed upon as a proforma marriage by the state (I know it's very much like this in countries further north in Europe).

Best of luck though...

Well if he's not married, his "wife to be" will not get a permit until the spavce on the dotted line is signed

If marriage is on the horizon anyway, fine - but don't do it just to get her here. The fastest or easiest may be to get married in your country (EU) if possible and file the paperwork from there. In CH you have to apply and it is posted and people can protest, etc. And osueco is right - you will have to sign a statement taking financial responsibility for her.

I would not ask your company HR. This matter is unrelated to your job. You could go to the canton I suppose, but I would ask more general questions such as how long it takes to get a permit after you're married.

Also, is your permit sponsored by your employer? If so I am not sure what kind of permit your wife would get. Being non-EU I don't know if she would automatically have working privileges. Anyone know that part?

Good luck.

I'm guessing she could probably come as some sort of dependent.

For CH to consider her a dependent, you'll probably have to prove co-habitation (or proof of your relationship) - as someone else said on this thread. I'm not sure how'd they would prove that, which is why I'm thinking it would be difficult to bring her to CH without some legally binding contract. i.e. Her being your girlfriend is not legally binding. However, her being your wife IS legally binding and can be proven.

As others said on this forum though - I'd strongly advise AGAINST marrying her just to bring her to CH. The Swiss government is extremely smart and careful about who they let into the country.

My advice to you: marry her in CH, or marry her abroad, if you feel you are ready for that step. Marrying her in CH would be easier because the documents will be in German. (hence you don't have to waste time getting them translated). Once you are married, and you have legally-binding proof of your relationship, you can apply for a Dependent Carte De L'egitmation. I don't know where you can apply for that though - does anyone else know?

You are in a very similar situation, as how my colleague was sometime back. He is a German citizen working in switzerland, his girl friend was a Brazillian.. Just to avoid some of the legal ccomplications, they got married in Germany.

The best thing would be to get married in any of your countries (to avoid some legal complications). This holds good for most of the countries.

Best wishes...

Cheers, JG

She will need to receive an immigration visa while in a country where she is a legal resident. So she'll probably need to deal with the consulate local to her home country. She is not a legal Swiss resident if she comes as a tourist.

She should be able to get a fiance visa, if you plan to marry in Switzerland. Or you can marry in another country and submit paperwork to convince the Swiss government to recognize it. There are lots of anecdotes on this forum of people doing it either way. I've seen the odd story or two about people having trouble proving, say, a rural Indian marriage to the Swiss's satisfaction. But it seems to be a question of paperwork and time (months).

Different consulates can have different procedures, so one of you should contact the Swiss embassy in her home country and ask them what is necessary for either a family reunification visa (if you marry first) or a fiance visa (if you decide to marry in Switzerland).

ThomasSSS is exactly right. Wherever you get married, make sure everything is well-documented. The clearer the documentation (and the more of it), the easier the process will be with the Swiss authorities.