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tuichick 30.10.2012 01:31

Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
Hi,

My husband and I are looking to move to Switzerland in order to work. We are both New Zealanders but he is a dual passport holder who also has a British/EU passport. I only have my New Zealand passport

My husband plans to travel to Switzerland ahead of me to secure a job and work permit before I join him. I know that I can then legally join him as a dependant partner on his permit. My question is what are the rules when I then decide to look for work? Will all the rules for non-EU members applying for work permits still apply for me? Will I have to leave the country again in order to apply for my own work permit?

Thank you for your advice.

swisspea 30.10.2012 07:54

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
If your husband manages to land a job and gets a salary that's reasonable to support you, then it won't be any problem at all for you to get the residency permit and work permission.

tuichick 30.10.2012 08:09

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
So do you mean that my status regarding being legally able to work will all depend on his salary? Where should I refer to find out more on this?

I have tried to read the official websites on permits and there appears to be nothing on this issue.

Thanks

swisspea 30.10.2012 08:20

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
Not quite....he has to get a job with a reasonable salary to support his spouse/family. If he is the primary permit holder, the process is much simpler than if you try to get a job first. Once he has a signed work contract and somewhere to live, the process of registration is very simple (he goes to the local town hall) and the permit is issued. Your residency permit as spouse of the EU gives you simplified work permission, and you can certainly look for a job and get a work permission easily as the spouse of a Non-EU.

The 'safeguard' is that one salary (His) should be, in the first instance, enough to support both of you. That's just a hurdle to jump. It's not a big hurdle if he's finished tertiary studies or already has a decent work history. It's an internal thing about the EU person falling onto the social security system in Switzerland within the first 12 months, and being unable to support their Non-EU spouse.

Personally, I'd just job search from your end, see what's out there, and make a trip over only if you have a few job interviews lined up at the least. He's allowed to come to job hunt, but it'll cost lots of money and not necessarily be more effective than doing it over the internet. It may also be easier to get the entry visa (which you need before you arrive to join him), if you are both together, applying from the UK.

And no, you won't have to leave the country to get a work permit etc. But you will need an entry 'visa'.

The best authority to talk to is the Swiss consulate general for the UK, because you will be handling it as a UK and spouse of a UK citizen - and they will be up to date with the rules - in this situation, you can virtually forget that he has dual citizenship for the Non-EU, and the Swiss consulate general in NZ may not necessarily be up to date on the procedures for UK citizens...

happyrobbie 30.10.2012 12:26

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swisspea (Post 1700731)
Not quite....he has to get a job with a reasonable salary to support his spouse/family. If he is the primary permit holder, the process is much simpler than if you try to get a job first. Once he has a signed work contract and somewhere to live, the process of registration is very simple (he goes to the local town hall) and the permit is issued. Your residency permit as spouse of the EU gives you simplified work permission, and you can certainly look for a job and get a work permission easily as the spouse of a Non-EU.

Once her husband finds a job with sufficient salary, for her, as the spouse of EU citizen, won't she directly get the same EU permit as her husband which automatically entitles her to work without restrictions? Or, as what you suggested, she will first get the residence permit which does not automatically entitles her to work, and then she has to find a job before applying a working permit? Anyway I'm a bit confused...

tuichick 30.10.2012 19:31

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
Thanks for the tips. I will get in touch with Swiss officials in the UK and post back regarding the outcome.

My husband is a professional with a university degree and 7 years postgraduate work experience. Unfortunately his profession are not high earners (even in Switzerland!) so I'll need to find out if supporting a wife on a very modest lifestyle will put them sufficiently at ease!

I am also a university educated professional but will require a higher level of language learning before I can practise my profession in Switzerland. Part time work in another field and language school may be what I initially do.

happyrobbie 30.10.2012 23:44

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuichick (Post 1701433)
Thanks for the tips. I will get in touch with Swiss officials in the UK and post back regarding the outcome.

My husband is a professional with a university degree and 7 years postgraduate work experience. Unfortunately his profession are not high earners (even in Switzerland!) so I'll need to find out if supporting a wife on a very modest lifestyle will put them sufficiently at ease!

I am also a university educated professional but will require a higher level of language learning before I can practise my profession in Switzerland. Part time work in another field and language school may be what I initially do.

I think you might not need to worry much about the salary of your husband. The key is that he find a job and secure his EU work permit. Your permit will be processed after as in the family reunion procedure. In the requirement they never said your husband has to have a big salary to support your family, they just require that you have sufficient financial means, this can be a reasonable salary, but also can be saving money in the bank.

As for your job, it's good you start to check for information, but now it is not a good time to actually start action: e.g. sending cv... Because you are non-EU, it is very difficult for the companies to hire you. They have to prove to the authority that they cannot find suitable candidates from CH or EU, and they have to apply for an non-EU working permit for you. Even if you are lucky some companies is willing to hire you despite those complexities, after, you still have to go through the family reunion process to change your permit to the same EU permit as your husband. It's double pain.

So, the best thing is wait until you get your EU permit through your husband, and then you are allowed to apply for jobs in CH without much restrictions (you will be on the same priority level as EU citizens) and it will be easier for your job hunting.

tuichick 31.10.2012 00:50

Re: Non-EU spouse of EU permit holder
 
Thank you so much for your replies/advice. I have found useful documents about this process on the following website: http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/...lo/vislon.html


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