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Old 30.10.2012, 10:59
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Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

Hey dear EF members,

I am an EU citizen (Hungarian) and I just received my L permit (Ausländerausweis).
It's a quite big document, not a small card, what I expected.
Do I have to carry it with me all the time?
I think my EU ID card should be enough to identify myself. I never carry my passport with me, because I don't want to risk loosing it. I would assume that I need my permit only to do official things (register at authorities or open bank account etc.)

Is there a regulation about it? Please share your knowledge!

Thanks and have a nice day,
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Old 30.10.2012, 12:52
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

I always have it with me. A policeman at the airport told me i must carry it with me at all times. But i guess it depends on the person as i travel often and im not asked for it every time.

But i have it in my bag at all times to be safe. And if i loose my bag, the permit will be the least of my worries
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Old 30.10.2012, 13:11
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

I always carry mine. I believe it is the easiest option. Every time you try to do anything you need to produce it.
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

Been here a year and never had it on me in that time, I see no reason to start now.
Re size, i agree, no idea why they don't just produce it like a driving license style card, would be much more convenient.
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Old 30.10.2012, 13:59
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

if you are traveling via the airport, I would recommend it. Even if you don't start your journey here. We just traveled out of Frankfurt to the US and I was asked for it both locations upon leaving...
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Old 30.10.2012, 14:06
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

Compromise:

- for day-to-day, local/work/college stuff, make a photocopy and carry this with you - probably not legally correct, but at least it will have all your details, if officialdom needs to run any checks - and can be folded for convenience;

- for out of area/country travel, take original, but make sure at least one copy is separate (if possible), but still with you, for just in case, and one copy left at home.
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

Been living here for over a year now with a UK passport and L permit. Never carried my either of them around day to day - no need to.

Of course if visiting officialdom/flying, you'll need one or both. But not day-to-day.
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Old 30.10.2012, 14:32
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

The only time I carry my permit is when I need it to show German customs officials whilst getting my vat refund forms stamped.

When travelling out of the country, apart from above, I just take my UK passport.

When picking up the cheap SBB day tickets from the kanton, if asked I show them a photocopy of my permit (that I always carry, along with a photo of the ID page from my passport - you never know when it could come in handy).
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Old 30.10.2012, 14:33
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

This has been discussed many times. Quick summary. You do not have to carry ID. If you do not have ID on you it can cause problems when asked to identify yourself to the police.

But not carrying ID is not, in and of itself, a crime.

I carry my driving license, but not my C-permit.
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Old 30.10.2012, 15:18
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

Usually dont carry the permit on me and the one and only time I needed to produce ID when police at the airport were questioning me they werre fully satisfied with my swiss drivers license
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Old 30.10.2012, 15:22
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

My L permit is a small pink and blue plastic card with my picture and a couple of holograms on it. Are they a different style depending on Canton or what?
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Old 30.10.2012, 15:27
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

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Been living here for over a year now with a UK passport and L permit. Never carried my either of them around day to day - no need to.

Of course if visiting officialdom/flying, you'll need one or both. But not day-to-day.
10 years. never carried it, never been asked for it... except of course the usual places - airport and the various govt offices.
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10 years. never carried it, never been asked for it... except of course the usual places - airport and the various govt offices.
Ditto this
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Old 30.10.2012, 15:52
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My L permit is a small pink and blue plastic card with my picture and a couple of holograms on it. Are they a different style depending on Canton or what?
Dodgy non-EU people get a nice credit-card type permit. Us EU people get a flimsy plastic wallet containing a paper permit.
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Dodgy non-EU people get a nice credit-card type permit. Us EU people get a flimsy plastic wallet containing a paper permit.
Was this meant to be compliment?
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Old 30.10.2012, 16:01
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Dodgy non-EU people get a nice credit-card type permit. Us EU people get a flimsy plastic wallet containing a paper permit.
Which disintegrates pretty quickly if kept inside a wallet/pocket . I find my credit card-sized Swiss ID much easier to carry around .
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

20 years of being here and I've never showed my permit to anyone bar the permit office and given a copy to my employers.

I never carry it or my passport.

I've been stopped by the police and fined.......for riding my bicycle through Stauffacher on the tramlines.......no asking for any ID, just 30 francs.
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Old 30.10.2012, 16:24
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Re: Do I have to carry my permit with me all the time?

I was once taking photos at a place and at a time where in retrospect I probably shouldn't have been, and ended up in the middle of a kettle.

The police however were perfectly happy with my drivers license as ID, and sent me on my way, saying that said place at said time could be a bit dangerous, and that I shouldn't come back next year.
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Old 30.10.2012, 16:26
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Was this meant to be compliment?
No. It was a humorous turn of phrase to reflect the fact the Swiss don't trust you to look after a piece of paper.
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I was once taking photos at a place and at a time where in retrospect I probably shouldn't have been, and ended up in the middle of a kettle.

The police however were perfectly happy with my drivers license as ID, and sent me on my way, saying that said place at said time could be a bit dangerous, and that I shouldn't come back next year.
Helvetiaplatz can be pretty cool around that time of year
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