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Path(s) for non-EU ( India ) Student B permit to C permit ?

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I had been to many forums out here and i do really think evry post in this site is very useful. Any help on my query is truly appreciated.

I am Indian and i am doing my MBA in hospitality from swiss. I am currently on Student B permit.
My question is can i stay in swiss for total 10 years on student B permit and then apply for C permit?

Please HELP!!
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Old 02.12.2012, 16:45
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

Please write in English, where is swiss?

A 'C' permit is earnt. After 10 years with a clean 'B' record you might be given one.
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Please write in English, where is swiss?

A 'C' permit is earnt. After 10 years with a clean 'B' record you might be given one.
Sorry.i mean....i am doing my MBA from Switzerland (luzerne).
This is just my 2nd year in Switzerland, but i am planning to extend my visa evry year on the basis of getting enrolled myself in any language or small course till i get eligible for C permit

Can a Student B permit can be converted to C permit ?

or it has to be a Work B permit ?

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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

After you finish your MBA start looking for a job. The employer will then apply for your B Permit (work). Why do you want to stay with a student B permit for 10 years?
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

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After you finish your MBA start looking for a job. The employer will then apply for your B Permit (work). Why do you want to stay with a student B permit for 10 years?
I am just worried about the labour market thing as i am from third class country.
Is it easy to get a hospitality job in switzerland ?

it would be great if you can guide me the easiest and quick way to get a C permit ? (excpt marrying any swiss citizen)
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

Sorry to tell you that it won't work.

Condition of getting a C-permit is to be on B working permit before, for at least 5 years (in case of good integration or EU/EFTA).

Theoretically if your strategy is that, you could try to stay in CH for 12 years and you will become eligible for citizenship.

However I think it's a challenge, particularly for non-EU, to get permits renewed for a period like that, plus +- 2 years for the citizenship procedure.
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

There is no easy and quick way. You'd need to check with the authorities really, but at the moment I can't see them converting a student B permit for a C because of the quota limits that are in place. Now that may change in 10 years, restrictions could be lifted or they could be made tighter.

At present a non-EU applicant needs skills that a Swiss or EU person is unlikely to have to make them attractive to prospective employers. I can't see hospitality in general providing those sort of skills. You need something really specialised in this field to have any chance.

Also, I'm not sure the Swiss authorities would allow you to extend a student permit for so long, but I don't know what the regulations, if any, are on this. Does anyone else know?
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Sorry to tell you that it won't work.

Condition of getting a C-permit is to be on B working permit before, for at least 5 years (in case of good integration or EU/EFTA).

Theoretically if your strategy is that, you could try to stay in CH for 12 years and you will become eligible for citizenship.

However I think it's a challenge, particularly for non-EU, to get permits renewed for a period like that, plus +- 2 years for the citizenship procedure.
how long can an employer renew my working B permit ?
is there any kind of restrictions on it as well ?

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There is no easy and quick way. You'd need to check with the authorities really, but at the moment I can't see them converting a student B permit for a C because of the quota limits that are in place. Now that may change in 10 years, restrictions could be lifted or they could be made tighter.

At present a non-EU applicant needs skills that a Swiss or EU person is unlikely to have to make them attractive to prospective employers. I can't see hospitality in general providing those sort of skills. You need something really specialised in this field to have any chance.

Also, I'm not sure the Swiss authorities would allow you to extend a student permit for so long, but I don't know what the regulations, if any, are on this. Does anyone else know?
Thanks for your information Sir.

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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

Is it easy to enter Canada after completion of 1 year PGD program in hospitality from switzerland.?

Can i apply from Canadian Embassy in Paris ?
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

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I am Indian and i am doing my MBA in hospitality from swiss.

I am just worried about the labour market thing as i am from third class country.
"third class country" ....seriously?

Being a fellow Indian myself and taking pride in that, am not even wondering if you are defaming your country or yourself....no doubts whatsoever!

no wonder English fellas went back and left you behind...huh

if you can't take it, don't break it!! Respect mate, Respect!
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

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Is it easy to enter Canada after completion of 1 year PGD program in hospitality from switzerland.?

Can i apply from Canadian Embassy in Paris ?
This is a forum based on Switzerland & all things Swiss. It is difficult for us to offer advice on Canadian visa requirements.
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Re: how Can Non Eu on student b permit can change it to C permit?

Buddy

My suggestion. You don't speak good German. Your basic English and expression in English is not so good. No one speaks Hindi or other regional Indian languages here. So whatw ill you do in Switzerland for 10 years.

Calling any country 'Third Class' will not get you anywhere in life even if you have a Swiss C Permit. Probably you meant Third World or in more suttle way Developing country.

Coming back to core issue of you finding a way to manuplate system to stay for 10 years and then claming C permit in my opinion will not work out that easily. How do you plan to support yourself for 10 years here? They will not give you a B for going to Migros Club Schule on weekends. You have come here to be a professional burning lot of money. Focus on your academics and try to excel. Once you come out you can join the Industry and again try to excel. By the time you do this, you'll probably be already eligible for a C.

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I am just worried about the labour market thing as i am from third class country.
Is it easy to get a hospitality job in switzerland ?

it would be great if you can guide me the easiest and quick way to get a C permit ? (excpt marrying any swiss citizen)
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Re: Path(s) for non-EU ( India ) Student B permit to C permit ?

I hope you are not banished from this third class country cos chances of you getting a C permit are far too less.

PS: Stop Indian bashing !

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Sorry to tell you that it won't work.

Condition of getting a C-permit is to be on B working permit before, for at least 5 years (in case of good integration or EU/EFTA).
I guess you want to stay here because your chances of landing agood job are greater than in the country of origin, but then you say the job market is not good so I really do not understand.
But what Bucentaure says it is true, you have to work on a B permit for 5 years to get a C permit, and if I am not mistaken being non EU might make it even a longer wait.
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Re: Path(s) for non-EU ( India ) Student B permit to C permit ?

Amazing how Efers are calm to such questions . I must have edited by reply 4 times before posting it. I will break it down to you my fellow asian

Study Hard
Apply for a job like others.
Do well in interview.
Work hard.
Have a clean record with all Swiss Authorities.
Learn German.
Apply for C permit after 5 years of being on a JOB.

Optional: Please have a better attitude towards immigration and life rather than trying to find shortcuts. If I misunderstood you, then I apologize.
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Is it easy to enter Canada after completion of 1 year PGD program in hospitality from switzerland.?

Can i apply from Canadian Embassy in Paris ?
Is your idea just to run away from India? It seems like you do not care where you are ..... Anyways, do not go for shortcuts and sometime getting C permit is not the ultimate solution.

I suggest you to think and find what you really want.... an academic degree with successful career or a failure student (for 10 years) with no identity and vision. By the way, I think one is not allowed to hold student permit for more than 6 (or 4) years.

I do not have C permit but I do not care because its last thing in my mind. I care about my family and career and as long as I can live with my family and have good career it does not matter if its B or C permit or even a Swiss passport.
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Re: Path(s) for non-EU ( India ) Student B permit to C permit ?

Well, I think it's very clear that what he meant is that an Indian passport from a Swiss legislator's view is in fact a third class one, and India from this point of view a third class-country, among many others, unfortunately.

A given fact.

One of the strategies to bypass resulting inconveniences with regard to such a consideration by European (i.e. not only Swiss) authorities could be that one asked for by OP, theoretically. Might be more or less practical and probably expensive, but maybe not impossible if tastefully done (Master, Postdoc or Phd e.g.) i.e. 12 years towards citizenship.
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Re: Path(s) for non-EU ( India ) Student B permit to C permit ?

I think he meant "third world" country? Not necessarily third class
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I think he meant "third world" country? Not necessarily third class
I would expect that he is talking context of visa applications and means that it comes third in the pecking order...
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Re: Path(s) for non-EU ( India ) Student B permit to C permit ?

Hi, I don't think it is possible to change B to C just being a student for 10 years. You have to have a working B for at least 10 years for the third world country.
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