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Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

Hi there, I would be really very grateful if anyone can help me to have some information about below said matter;

I live in Switzerland already so far 1 year with N permit (asylum seeker) in canton Aargau and my fiance also living here and she has already completed so far 5 years with F permit.

Now we are planning to do necessary arrangements to get married.. But still I've following questions to be sorted out :

* is it possible us to get married in Swiss with those permits/ visas ?
* if the govt. may accept our request, how long it will take ?
* what are the documents should we need to submit ?
* if we register our marriage legally what kind of permit they would issue for us ?

your earliest response would be highly appreciated !

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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

Did you already have that ceremony in October ( you were looking for a reception hall then ) ?

In German, a URL about a decision that might be related.

Someone with a Permit N ( undetermined asylum case - I hope you have a SL passport and ID card that can be verified for the purpose of marriage ) wishes to marry someone from the same Canton with a Permit F ( temporarily admitted into CH ).

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Requirements for marriage

In order to get married, you must meet the following legal requirements:
the person you want to marry must be of the opposite sex;

you must be over 18 years of age and have the capacity to consent;

if you are subject to a guardianship order, you must obtain the consent of your legal representative;

you may not already be married or in a registered partnership;

you may not be closely related to the other person [e.g. biological parents or grandparents, adoptive parents or grandparents, (half-)brother or (half-)sister;]

you may not get married in order to circumvent laws on the admission and residence of foreign nationals;

you must be able to prove that you are lawfully resident in Switzerland at the time of the marriage. - you both have permits
Source and further reading

Special forms ( Z1 / Z2 ) - PDF from the BfM enclosed.

Costs, how long it will take and other questions can be best answered by the F permit holder's Asyl Co-ordination Department of the person with an F permit in his/her Gemeinde or Stadt. You might need to reach the Rechtsberatungsstelle für Asylsuchende Aargau for assistance ( HEKS ).

You can also reach the Zilvilstandamt in Aargau for information and here about marriage.

Certain people also register with or notify the home embassy ( SL embassy for example ) of the marriage in CH.

Previous thread:

URGENT !! - Advise Needed..( appeal by rejected F permit holder )
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

//Did you already have that ceremony in October ( you were looking for a reception hall then ) ? //

- Yeah, you're right we have already got married in October 2012 that was related to our cultural fest (not legal registration take place yet)..

We are planning to go the Zivilstandsamt in Aarau shortly,,

And I am really aware to know which kind of ausweis they will provide us..?? (F or N ?)
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

Getting married will not change the permit from N to F ( for this to happen, the BfM must be convinced that the N permit holder cannot be sent back to SL within the next 12 months AND that the asylum claim is not individual, but affects a general class of persons and warrants a temporary admittance ).

If the claims are substantiated and believed and it uniquely affects only the N permit holder within the Convention rules and within Swiss domestic asylum rules, then the N might be granted to a refugee B.

Marriage alone is not good enough to change the permit.
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

Thanks very much for this !

I wasn't thinking to convert my N permit to F because my case is still under process and of course I've met only the first interview yet (so far 1 year now) which means I may have to wait.. On the other way round people were saying that my fiance will get N permit back.

Hope that won't happened !
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

For your fiancé to lose the F, it could be that the original claim is disbelieved and / or it is "safe" to return home, not an account of marriage.

They will not issue an N ( asylum seeker pending determination ) and instead give your fiancé means to apply for a Certificate of Identity via the local SL embassy to return to SL for example. As of 4th April 2011, the SL government appears not to issued SL passports to refugee claimants.

Again, HEKS legal assistance is the best source for you / your fiancé.
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

However, said information regarding permit changes wasn't official..

The only thing that I wonder to know conversion of our permits.. As per your replies I understand that those existing permits which are currently we have gonna be as it is !
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

I guess by marriage the only thing that ought to change is family rights ( perhaps some form of protection against removal ? ).
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

What does it means..?? I didn't get it (
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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

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Hi there, I would be really very grateful if anyone can help me to have some information about below said matter;

I live in Switzerland already so far 1 year with N permit (asylum seeker) in canton Aargau and my fiance also living here and she has already completed so far 5 years with F permit.

Now we are planning to do necessary arrangements to get married.. But still I've following questions to be sorted out :

* is it possible us to get married in Swiss with those permits/ visas ?
* if the govt. may accept our request, how long it will take ?
* what are the documents should we need to submit ?
* if we register our marriage legally what kind of permit they would issue for us ?

your earliest response would be highly appreciated !

Shath
N and F permit in Switzerland will never changed, even fi you get married here as I know.

Also with N and F permit is long way to get married here even if you are from the same kanton becuse you need a lot documents to submit.

You with N permit will be the same till you case will be resolv and F permit as I know will be same status dont even change in any cases but you can try in all.

Good luck...!
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I guess by marriage the only thing that ought to change is family rights ( perhaps some form of protection against removal ? ).
Mr. jrspet,

Please note that by marriage we are not expecting any kind of protection against removal.. Please do understand our situation first of all.. Due to some sort of Inequitable reasons only we are here as ASYLUM SEEKERS !

Thanks for your replies anyway

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Re: Getting Married - Asylum Seeker !

Hi
Can you please update me about your problem ? Did you get married ? I also need some information if you can guide me..
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