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Hi all,

hope some one can give me some sort of advice/info.

Situation is that I am a Brit and my wife is a non-EU citizen and we both have L permits that are valid until the end of March.

My wife had to fly to Thailand to visit her father who is very ill and we have just realised that she left her permit behind. She is due to fly back to Zurich on Tuesday and will have no documentary proof that she is allowed in the county (she doesn't have a UK passport).

We have looked at couriering the permit to her, but there is no way for it to get there before she is due to leave. She is also not local enough to the Swiss embassy in Thailand to arrange a schenhan (sp) visa in time.

Does anyone have any ideas of who we could contact or what we can do to get her through immigration control when she arrives in Zurich? I will be meeting her at the airport and can take her permit with me, but not sure how to get it to the people that matter.
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Why not ring up the airport and ask?
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Re: Forgotten permit

I tried that, but the general number just told me they couldn't help and refused to give me any contact details for immigration.
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Re: Forgotten permit

She will be registered in the national computer. The border guard can identify her from her passport and see she is legally registered here. Don't worry, as long as she has her passport she should get in OK.
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She will be registered in the national computer. The border guard can identify her from her passport and see she is legally registered here. Don't worry, as long as she has her passport she should get in OK.
That's true, but on most occasions they really ask you for the permit, especially for non EU...
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Should be fine, I have never had to show my permit once out of 20 - 30 in and outs
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Hi all,

hope some one can give me some sort of advice/info.

Situation is that I am a Brit and my wife is a non-EU citizen and we both have L permits that are valid until the end of March.

My wife had to fly to Thailand to visit her father who is very ill and we have just realised that she left her permit behind. She is due to fly back to Zurich on Tuesday and will have no documentary proof that she is allowed in the county (she doesn't have a UK passport).

We have looked at couriering the permit to her, but there is no way for it to get there before she is due to leave. She is also not local enough to the Swiss embassy in Thailand to arrange a schenhan (sp) visa in time.

Does anyone have any ideas of who we could contact or what we can do to get her through immigration control when she arrives in Zurich? I will be meeting her at the airport and can take her permit with me, but not sure how to get it to the people that matter.
Have you thought, she might not even be allowed to board the plane in Thailand.
Without a valid visa/permit, I don't think the airways/thai-immigration would even allow her to leave Thailand.
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Have you thought, she might not even be allowed to board the plane in Thailand.
Without a valid visa/permit, I don't think the airways/thai-immigration would even allow her to leave Thailand.
Thanks for that - it actually matches what I've just been told by immigration at Zurich airport (managed to find a number for another department and bluffed my way to getting immigration's number).

They said that getting into CH will not be a problem as they will check the computer as others have said, but like you said she may not be able to get on the plane the other end.

So we will be speaking to the airline in the morning to see what they say.
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Old 01.02.2013, 19:13
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Re: Forgotten permit

Fax her a copy of the permit and maybe she could just say she forgot it or lost/had it stolen it while she was in Thailand?
Not sure if it will make difference if it was lost/stolen or if she forgot it.

If she needs a round trip ticket you might have to buy a REFUNDABLE one way ticket.

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Why not show up with her permit at the time she is expected to arrive? This way, if there are questions, there might be some way she can contact you and you can get the pass to her.
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Re: Forgotten permit

You could scan the permit, and e-mail it to her. She can print off a copy where she is in Thailand, and keep the copy in her possession. Not as good as having the original, but better than nothing...

EDIT - minimia got in there before me!
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Should be fine, I have never had to show my permit once out of 20 - 30 in and outs
If you are non EU you always have to show your permit.
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You could scan the permit, and e-mail it to her. She can print off a copy where she is in Thailand, and keep the copy in her possession. Not as good as having the original, but better than nothing...

EDIT - minimia got in there before me!
Except that the fact that i wrote "fax it" and you wrote "scan it" shows... um... never mind!
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except that the fact that i wrote "fax it" and you wrote "scan it" shows... Um... that great minds think (almost) alike!
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I tried leaving Thailand on an expired permit (my renewal hasn't arrived yet) and the Thais at the Swiss counter in BKK gave me a serious hard time about it. I had to speak with a manager and explain over and over that my new one had not arrived.

To add: I called every week for a month on that stupid permit, it arrived 9 months later.
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Re: Forgotten permit

Thanks for the replies all.

We've decided that we are going to scan and email the permit, together with any other documentation that we can find to support her right to be in CH and I have also given her the phone number that I found for Zurich airport immigration.

Her ticket is non-refundable, so she's got nothing to lose by going to the airport on Tuesday and tying her luck. Hopefully if she pushes hard enough she will be able to persuade someone with the power to make a decision that she will have no trouble getting into Switzerland.
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Re: Forgotten permit

Thought I would just update everyone with the happy ending to this tale.

My wife's flight was last night (Thai time) and she had absolutely no problems with check-in or Thai border control - they just looked at her passport and didn't even ask for any evidence that she had a right to be in Switzerland. She did however get asked by the man at the boarding gate for some proof, but after he phoned someone they accepted the photocopy permit that I sent her.

At this end, she had no problems at border control, she just explained that her new permit had been issued while she was abroad and they checked her on the computer and let her through.
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If you are non EU you always have to show your permit.

sure about that?
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sure about that?
Yes if you are flying in from non-Schengen countries
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official link then please....
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