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My great-grandmother was born in Switzerland 1870 and with my great-grandfather (German) lived in Argentina where my grandfather was born.
My gradfather's birth certificate was sealed by the Swiss Embassy in Argenina as if he was recognized as a Swiss citizen.
Can my mother apply to the facilitated naturalization process? What are my options? My son's?
As omtatsat mentioned, your best source of official information is the cantonal authorities. However, your case sounds similar to mine (read the beginning of this thread to check), so I would guess that your mother and you can apply for citizenship, just as I did (and got it). If your children are legal minors and you do obtain the citizenship, they automatically get it as well.

Feel free to PM me if you need any further information. I also speak Spanish... Good luck and best regards.
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Hello Everyone

I found this forum by googling you out.. I am a bit desperate. I am doing my interview at the DC Swiss Consulate sometime soon (I have to call back tomorrow to confirm whether it's next week or next month).

My biggest problem is that I do not know any Swiss language. I am 40, and learnt French from when I was 14 yrs to when I was 17 yrs, never really practiced it... my husband is German speaking and I know no Deutsch.

I have gazillion trips to Switzerland, know the history/geography relatively well, and generally meet all the other criteria.

For anyone who has had the interview in DC---how badly off am I? How much can I prep in French some well-rehearsed lines and then get off onto English?

Help me!

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Please give more background information eg nationality of husband,relationship with Switzerland etc
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Please give more background information eg nationality of husband,relationship with Switzerland etc
Thank you!

Husband is Swiss, born and raised there, then moved to the US in the late 1990s. Still holds Swiss citizenship. Three children, all born in the US, but each has Swiss passes. His whole family is there, and we visit at least once a year, every year. In the US, we are members of the "Swiss Abroad" and we do the usual activities, like attend August 1 celebrations etc. Have many references, etc. Language is extremely rusty. Would be very grateful for any broad questions that are always asked in the Swiss language (are they about naturalization, or the history/geography)? Many thanks..
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Please give more background information eg nationality of husband,relationship with Switzerland etc
PS. Married 9 years. Did not apply any earlier than now, because no hurry, wasn't really planning to move back, but we are now considering it
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Re: Facilitated naturalization interview

Well it should be no problem.But maybe brush up your general knowledge of Switzerland. With your background I would say that you should get it. I am applying for the same but I have been living in Switzerland for 17 Years. Even then they can say no!
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Old 20.10.2011, 17:15
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I don't know how strict they are really, but your file looks good. If I were you I'd learn really well a few opening phrases, including something like "my french is a bit rusty, do you mind if we continue in English?". If you get those phrases down really well, they might think you are just shy.

If I were in your place I'd feel more confident than me where I speak great French but don't have good references. I feel you are in a better position.

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I don't know how strict they are really, but your file looks good. If I were you I'd learn really well a few opening phrases, including something like "my french is a bit rusty, do you mind if we continue in English?". If you get those phrases down really well, they might think you are just shy.

If I were in your place I'd feel more confident than me where I speak great French but don't have good references. I feel you are in a better position.

Good luck!
Thank you miniMia... I have three weeks to be ready.
On the phone, she was a bit indifferent...I said yes, I do know quite a decent amount of Swiss culture, traditions, geog, hist, political system, recent events, and I also know a little French, but I sometimes have difficulty in following the accent (meaning: if I read the words, I would understand better, hearing takes a little bit longer). She said that well, as a potential Swiss citizen, we do expect that you know enough to make yourself understood, but also understand.

I understand their position--they are asking what is very reasonable. Doesn't solve my problems unfortunately.

Could someone tell me--what do they ask in the 10-15 minutes of national language? Is it just pleasantries? Or substantive questions about why you want to move, immigrate, the politics, the history?!

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My biggest problem is that I do not know any Swiss language. I am 40, and learnt French from when I was 14 yrs to when I was 17 yrs, never really practiced it... my husband is German speaking and I know no Deutsch. I have gazillion trips to Switzerland, know the history/geography relatively well, and generally meet all the other criteria.
I would start by saying this seems to vary from consulate to consulate. From all the experiences I know, out of a 1 hour interview (average) you should expect to conduct 5 to 10 minutes of it in the Swiss language you chose.

My French was probably at the same level as yours (four years of French in high school), although I did take the time to brush up a little bit during the three months before the interview. Anyway, the lady who interviewed me was satisfied with my ability to explain how I knew French and how long I had studied it.

Pretty much all the "difficult" (not really) questions of the interview were done in my native language (Spanish).

Good luck and please keep us posted.
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I would start by saying this seems to vary from consulate to consulate. From all the experiences I know, out of a 1 hour interview (average) you should expect to conduct 5 to 10 minutes of it in the Swiss language you chose.

My French was probably at the same level as yours (four years of French in high school), although I did take the time to brush up a little bit during the three months before the interview. Anyway, the lady who interviewed me was satisfied with my ability to explain how I knew French and how long I had studied it.

Pretty much all the "difficult" (not really) questions of the interview were done in my native language (Spanish).

Good luck and please keep us posted.
Thank you, Gonzus. I set it up so I have about a month (now about 3 weeks) to practice French, brush up history, geog, etc. I am dreading it, but will get through it (I hope I am not the first person that they will take the USD 800 from and yet fail the interview)!

I will come back and update...thank you again.
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Re: Facilitated naturalization interview

Good luck to you! I fretted a lot about the language part too, but it was honestly nothing in the end. That was in Atlanta though. They seemed most impressed that we bothered to be members of the Swiss Club in our area and that I read the Swiss Review that came periodically in the mail. The person who interviewed me was German speaking, so I'm not so sure her French was much better than mine! Her English was fantastic, and that's what we spoke most of the time. I can't really remember exactly what all was said now, but it seems we talked about how since almost everyone in Switzerland speaks English, why does it matter? It was really pretty pleasant and casual. I hope yours is also!
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Good luck to you! I fretted a lot about the language part too, but it was honestly nothing in the end. That was in Atlanta though. They seemed most impressed that we bothered to be members of the Swiss Club in our area and that I read the Swiss Review that came periodically in the mail. The person who interviewed me was German speaking, so I'm not so sure her French was much better than mine! Her English was fantastic, and that's what we spoke most of the time. I can't really remember exactly what all was said now, but it seems we talked about how since almost everyone in Switzerland speaks English, why does it matter? It was really pretty pleasant and casual. I hope yours is also!
Thank you Sophie...In the end, I decided that if I don't remember a French word, I will just throw the English word in its place, as I would do in French speaking part of Switzerland in real life. Je suis try a parle en Francais, par quelque fois je ne c'est pas (for example... ))))) )

I hope I am not the first person flunking!!!!
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...I hope I am not the first person flunking!!!!
I really don't think you'll flunk, as long as the interviewer gets an overall sense that you see yourself as genuinely connected to Switzerland.

If you're generally hard-pressed to talk about Swiss-related stuff that you know and experiences you've had, then maybe there's some risk. But if you can convey an assortment of personal knowledge and experience (including some measure of national language knowledge), I think it will turn out well.

From my own experience and the contents of this thread, I surmise that interviewers have (and use) a measure of flexibility. The main goal (I believe) is simply to establish that you have knowledge and experience that connects you to Switzerland (as opposed to trying to "slip past unnoticed" purely on a technical basis — i.e., relying on a relationship alone).
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Re: Facilitated naturalization interview

Hello there. I'm in the middle of getting a swiss citizenship. My wife is swiss, I'm an EU citizen, been living here almost 10 years now.

Yesterday (friday) I received a letter from the local Police where they write that they expect me to come by at monday morning?! I's about my naturalization, and it takes about 10 minutes. If the time isn't suitable I should call to them and make a new appointment.

In the letter is also written that if I don't appear there the police comes to pick me up...

Should I be worried? How should I prepare myself to this interwiew? Is this normal? I live in the Canton of Lucerne.

I don't have a criminal record and haven't done anything bad here if you don't count the few speeding tickets.
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Hello.
Well the police made a visit to me a couple of months ago in relation to my naturalization. Just one person-a friendly but official person from State Police Zürich.
My wife had to be present as well-basically to see the the marriage was real.
Well he asked a few questions-my background,work and then did a very small general knowledge test of Switzerland.( very basic)
-name of Capitol of Switzerland
-name 3 Kantons in Switzerland
-names of the countries bordering Switzerland
-how many members in National Rat

He basically observed how well I could speak German and asked me if I could speak Swiss German-which I don't but I understand it well.

It was over in 10 Minutes-was really short.


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Hello there. I'm in the middle of getting a swiss citizenship. My wife is swiss, I'm an EU citizen, been living here almost 10 years now.

Yesterday (friday) I received a letter from the local Police where they write that they expect me to come by at monday morning?! I's about my naturalization, and it takes about 10 minutes. If the time isn't suitable I should call to them and make a new appointment.

In the letter is also written that if I don't appear there the police comes to pick me up...

Should I be worried? How should I prepare myself to this interwiew? Is this normal? I live in the Canton of Lucerne.

I don't have a criminal record and haven't done anything bad here if you don't count the few speeding tickets.
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Dear all

So I had my interview on Friday (applying through 8+ years of marriage to Swiss national, living abroad, interviewed in the US). Overall I think it went okay. We started off in French and I managed to understand a few things and answer a few things, but after about 5-10 minutes she said "You can make yourself understood and understand some French, but clearly, the whole interview cannot take place in French" (sigh..but good!). Then she asked questions about two things which I blanked on at that very moment (the canton where they spoke Romansch, and Locarno--since I had been briefly in Ticino), but I had answers to most of the rest--traditions (including some relatively obscure ones), current make-up of the Federal Council, population size, lakes and others... It was about 40 minutes in all. At the end she said "This will probably take about 1 year to process", which sounded normal to me.

Question for others: Canton Appenzell--how fast/slow is it? And how much do they tend to be favorable/unfavorable on the requests?

Thank you all for your support and encouragement. I will keep you posted.
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Canton Appenzell is alot different to Canton Zürich.
Alot more conservative and more strict with naturalization requests.
Keep your fingers crossed.

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So I had my interview on Friday (applying through 8+ years of marriage to Swiss national, living abroad, interviewed in the US). Overall I think it went okay. We started off in French and I managed to understand a few things and answer a few things, but after about 5-10 minutes she said "You can make yourself understood and understand some French, but clearly, the whole interview cannot take place in French" (sigh..but good!). Then she asked questions about two things which I blanked on at that very moment (the canton where they spoke Romansch, and Locarno--since I had been briefly in Ticino), but I had answers to most of the rest--traditions (including some relatively obscure ones), current make-up of the Federal Council, population size, lakes and others... It was about 40 minutes in all. At the end she said "This will probably take about 1 year to process", which sounded normal to me.


Question for others: Canton Appenzell--how fast/slow is it? And how much do they tend to be favorable/unfavorable on the requests?


Thank you all for your support and encouragement. I will keep you posted.
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Canton Appenzell is alot different to Canton Zürich.
Alot more conservative and more strict with naturalization requests.
Keep your fingers crossed.
**sigh**.. hoping for the best. On looking it up further, I read that the applications from spouses of Swiss living abroad are not handled by the canton directly, but just the federal authorities. The relevant canton then only reserves the right to appeal.

Anyone here applied from abroad know more about this? Or have experiences?

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Foreign spouses of Swiss citizens (simplified naturalisation after a total of five years' residence in Switzerland and three years of marriage) and children with a Swiss parent who do not have Swiss citizenship may under certain legal conditions qualify for simplified naturalisation. People who have close ties with Switzerland may apply for facilitated naturalisation even if they are domiciled abroad. What is essential in these cases, however, is that they have been married to a Swiss citizen for at least six years. The decision regarding facilitated naturalisation lies solely with the Confederation. The canton in question will first be heard in court and, like the commune, has a right of appeal. Simplified naturalisation is dealt with by the Federal Office for Migration (FOM).
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And more on that:

Requirements at federal level
  • Integration
  • Compliance with rule of law
  • No danger to internal or external security
  • Additional requirements depending on legal provisions
Requirements at cantonal levelNone, only right to be heard and right of appeal Requirements at communal levelNone, only right to be heard and right of appeal


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Hello everyone,

My grandfather was born in Schwyz and emigrated to Chile in 1888; I was born in Chile. The Swiss Embassy in Chile has provided information in the sense that I am entitled to apply to obtain the Swiss nationality through a process called "facilitated integration". I have perused some of the threads in here and ascertained that most of you will be familiar with the "usual" strong ties requirements for this process:
  • Spending vacation time and others in Switzerland (usually 3 times in the last 10 years).
  • Having strong contacts with Swiss people living in Switzerland.
  • Having contacts with Swiss people living abroad, and with Swiss-related organizations.
  • Speaking one of the languages of Switzerland.
  • Having knowledge of geography, history and current political events in Switzerland.
Besides presenting a lot of paperwork (birth and marriage certificates, etc.), the application process requires submitting to a spoken interview at the Embassy, which must be held in one of the languages of Switzerland. Although my family is closely related to the German tradition in the country, my French is way better than my German (not to say anything about my Swiss German, which is non-existent), so I have chosen to hold the interview in French; in the Embassy I have been assured this will have no impact on the process. On the other hand, I have never felt my French is up to conversational levels of fluency; I can read pretty well (and force myself to do so everyday off www.swissinfo.org in French) but I would never claim to be able to, for instance, give a presentation in French (as I can do in Spanish, my mother tongue, or in English, after having lived in the US for a couple of years).

Now, the specific questions I want to pose:
  • Please comment on the language requirement. I have read in these threads that you should be able to make yourself understood in one of the Swiss languages. Is that the level required? If yes, I believe I can pull it off. Or should I be able to, say, watch a movie in French and then come up with a summary of what I just watched?
  • More importantly: can anybody who has gone through this type of interview share some details? What questions were asked? In what percentage was it centered on Switzerland itself (history, geography, politics) and on the applicant (story, family, why they want to become citizens)? How much of it was held in the Swiss language and how much in the applicant's native tongue? How long it lasted? Was immediate feedback provided right away, even if it was "are you kidding? Get outta here!"?
Any information you might share would be very welcome on my side. Thanks in advance and best regards.
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