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Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation Law

Hi everyone, I am new to the forum and it is nice to meet you all. I am wondering about whether or not the new naturalisation law (the C-permit one), if it passes, can effect my application if I submit it months before the passage. Recently, I managed to get my B1 Attestation for French and I am soon going to apply for naturalisation.

If the law passes, will the C-permit requirement make my application useless months into the process or will it only affect those who apply after the implementation of the law? I am also in the Geneva Canton.
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

Does anyone know at all?
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

Switzerland rarely make their laws retrospective. So if you satisfy all requirements at the TIME OF APPLICATION, you should not have any issues.
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

As far as I know, everything will depend on the date on which your application is submitted. As long as it is submitted before the new law comes into effect (date of approval by the Council of States + 90 days for the referendum expiration period), your application will be reviewed under the old laws.

I'm in the same boat as you (a carte de legitimation holder with the required 12 years of residence who will become ineligible as soon as the new law comes into effect).
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

Forgive me if anyone has already asked this but i wasn't able to find the answer. When will the new naturalization laws finally be voted on and if approved, is it know when they will take effect? I am close to applying for naturalization as well and could actually benefit by one year from the new law.
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

Depends on the Parliamentary schedule which is currently focused on the Lex USA.
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

The summer session's schedule does not mention the révision totale de la loi fédérale sur la nationalité Suisse.
Given that the current head of the justice and police department is a PS member, and that there are bigger political arguments to be had, I don't think this will even be scheduled for the Conseil des États before the spring session of 2014 at the earliest.
I say PS, because the Conseil National voted amendments to article 9 which effectively mean young people have to live here longer than before. The bill was originally submitted in early 2011 and took over two years to get past the first chamber. If you're approaching the date when you're eligible for naturalisation, you shouldn't worry about this law. I'd even wager that by the time it finally gets voted on, you'd be a citizen already…
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

please excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me about the new naturalisation law, I haven't heard about it before , and how does it influence a C-permit holder of 20 years?
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please excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me about the new naturalisation law, I haven't heard about it before , and how does it influence a C-permit holder of 20 years?
http://www.parlament.ch/sites/doc/Cu...22/N11%20F.pdf

Voilà the bill as it was voted on by the Conseil National. It hasn't become law yet.
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please excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me about the new naturalisation law, I haven't heard about it before , and how does it influence a C-permit holder of 20 years?
It wouldn't have any influence on a C-permit holder of 20 years, as far as I am aware. Applicants for citizenship will need to have lived in Switzerland for 10 years AND have a c-permit. Before, it was 12 years and there was no c-permit requirement. There are other changes to.
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please excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me about the new naturalisation law, I haven't heard about it before , and how does it influence a C-permit holder of 20 years?
nothing influences a 20-year veteran who has had a fistful of C permits!
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Re: Question regarding Submitting Naturalisation Application and New Naturalisation L

Everyone focuses on the 12 years, but keep in mind there are other residency requirements at the cantonal and communal level. For example, where I live it is 12 years in Switzerland and 5 years in the community, or 15 years in Switzerland and 2 years in the community.
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Everyone focuses on the 12 years, but keep in mind there are other residency requirements at the cantonal and communal level. For example, where I live it is 12 years in Switzerland and 5 years in the community, or 15 years in Switzerland and 2 years in the community.
Agreed, and there are cantons that require 10..12 years in the canton regardless of time elsewhere in Switzerland. Geneva by comparison requires 2 in the commune/canton......in addition to the Federal requirement.
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