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A (hopefully) easy question here. I just arrived and am staying in a hotel just outside Lausanne. In a few days I'm moving into Lausanne (this is within 8 days of my arrival). Is there any reason to register with the address hotel? If I do, and I understand everything correctly, I'll have to then de-register and then register my "arrival" again in Lausanne when I move on Monday. This seems silly to me, not to mention expensive (I'll have to pay to register in each place, right?). Not sure if this makes things more complicated, but I also start work on Monday. Would it matter if I register and start work on the same day?

Also, while I'm at it, I have another question. What is the difference between registering with the commune and applying for the residence permit? Are these different things, or the same?

I thought I had figured out everything ahead of time...then I got here...

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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

I think I saw somewhere that the time limit is 14 days so you should be okay to wait. But do it as soon as you've moved in so you don't forget to do it.

You register at the commune so they can then organise a residence permit for you.
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

According to my copy of Living and Working in Switzerland (the 11th edition), you must register at the commune where you're living within 8 days of arrival in Switzerland. So if I have understood you correctly and you will move into Lausanne before the 8 days are up, then you can wait until you move and then register. If for whatever reason your move is delayed and you will still be in your temporary accommodation, then yes, you will have to register at the commune where your temporary accommodation is based.

It also says that you must register before you start work. So that is another factor you have to take into consideration.

Make sure you bring your passport (and if applicable those of your family members), your 'assurance of a resident permit' document (I brought along a letter from my new employer promising to employ me), your marriage certificate (if applicable), your birth certificate (and if applicable those of your family members) and two passport size photographs for you and each member of your family up to 18 years of age (family members over 18 must present their own documents).

If you do need to deregister, apparently you also need to do that 8 days before departure... I suggest if you're at all unsure you go to the contrôle d'habitants where you will initially be staying and ask them what to do.

About your second question, I think that when you register you also are applying for a residence permit (and that you will be given a temporary document). That's what happened to me. I'm EU. You don't state your nationality on your profile... and I'm not sure if it's the same for EU and non-EU.
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

This from the www.bfm.admin.ch website document EURES: Everyday Life in Switzerland:

REGISTRATION

If you intend to stay in Switzerland for longer than three months and/or to take up gainful employment, you must report to the local authorities within 14 days of your arrival. In any case you must register before starting a job.

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/dam/data/migration/publikationen/swissemigration/eures-alltag-e.pdf

I must admit I was surprised to see 14 days given as I had always thought it was only 8.
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Also, while I'm at it, I have another question. What is the difference between registering with the commune and applying for the residence permit? Are these different things, or the same?
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You only need to go to the Lausanne "Controle Des Habitants" and register. You need the tenancy agreement and work contract.

The fist time you register, at the same session you will also complete a form which is an application for a residence permit. (ie an ID card, which you receive later). So you need photos and some 100 or so CHF often in cash, as in many town halls they dont take cards

Thereafter, you only have to report again to the "Controle des habitants" every time you move address. (this also applies to Swiss people).
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Can't you just go to the authorities and tell them you are in a hotel until so and so date, after which you want to register at your permanent address? We managed to just register at our permanent place (we were buying the house but it wasn't finished yet) even though we stayed in temp housing for 2.5 months...the relo company told us that no way that would work. I have often found it better to just ask those who decide and see what they say...
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

It may say you need to register before you start work, but that's not very practical.

For example, I flew into Basel Sunday night and started work Monday morning. The following week I took my employment contract and passport to the kanton office (and money) and they processed my registraton.

Unfortunately, as I was then in a servicved apartment for a month (after spending the first few days in a hotel) I had to pay a small fee again to change the address once I moved into an apartment.

I was also told it was 8 days. Could be one of those rumours that just never gets contradicted.
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Can't you just go to the authorities and tell them you are in a hotel until so and so date, after which you want to register at your permanent address? We managed to just register at our permanent place (we were buying the house but it wasn't finished yet) even though we stayed in temp housing for 2.5 months...the relo company told us that no way that would work. I have often found it better to just ask those who decide and see what they say...
He's got 14 days to register so he's fine to wait until he's moved.
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Ok, thanks for the replies. I'll go down and chat with them tomorrow but I'll probably just wait until Monday unless they say otherwise (I'll try to remember to report back whether they said I should/shouldn't bother). Maybe I'll try to go to the one in Lausanne too and ask if I can register before I actually move there.

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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Happy to be corrected... my copy of Living & Working in Switzerland is a few years old so perhaps the rules have changed?
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Happy to be corrected... my copy of Living & Working in Switzerland is a few years old so perhaps the rules have changed?
It's 14 days when you first arrive from abroad, 8 days if you are moving within Switzerland
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Could be Vlh22. Mine's pretty old as well so I didn't bother to look there, but I'd come across this question from another poster a couple of weeks ago and knew I seen the 14 days mentioned somewhere. Finally found it again, but that wasn't where I saw it originally on bfm.admin or ch.ch.

Might drop a note to Mr. Hampshire for correction in future editions. Just been to find details and see that he died in 1990. Guess I'll contact the publisher then.
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Just in case anyone is curious, I just went to Contrôle des habitants in Lausanne and registered. They didn't care that my hotel wasn't in Lausanne.
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Good news. Did you use the hotel address or your new apartment one?
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Lausanne one, no need to go back in and change the address now...
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Excellent, now you can move in without having that to remember along with everything else.
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Re: arrive and depart within 8 days

Glad you got everything sorted...
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