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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Hello,

Could anybody please provide more insight as to what exactly is asked, how many people attend and how long is the rapport d’enquête meeting is for naturalization in Lausanne? Any ideas for dress code?

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Could anybody please provide more insight as to what exactly is asked, how many people attend and how long is the rapport d’enquête meeting is for naturalization in Lausanne? Any ideas for dress code?

I don't know about the specifics of Lausanne's commune but in Vaud in general, the goal is to provide feedback in a from that is specified by the canton. Link and a bit more explanation in my previous post.

As for the dress code, well, I didn't even think about that. Probably as long as you have pants on nobody cares .
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Old 16.12.2021, 19:42
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

There was a person who was rejected the citizenship due to walking around his town in sport pants.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Update:

August 2020 -> KDE/Grundkenntnistest/C-Permit
September 2020 -> Docs sent to the Gemeindeamt
November 2020 -> Confirmation from the Geminedeamt
January 2021 -> Docs sent to my Gemeinde by the Kt
March 2021 -> Request from my Gemeinde to send them my tax declaration
May 2021 -> Invitation to Einbuergerungsgespraech
June 2021 -> Einbuergerungsgespraech
October 2021 -> Municipal citizen's rights granted. Payment bill attached. Case moved to the Gemeindeamt
December 2021 -> Kantonal citizen's rights granted. Payment bill to follow.

BTW, I didn't get any letters between granting municipal and kantonal rights. I think others mentioned that there should be a letter saying that the case is back with the canton now and that I can move freely within a canton. Maybe it got lost.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Gemeinde interview, facts concerning Switzerland, end of Jan. 2022.
Kantonal interview, integration, end of Feb. 2022.

Only 2 and a bit years since we started. Best start learning, I guess.
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Old 16.12.2021, 22:02
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My letter arrived on the Friday. I could book an appiintment for Wed on Tues, and had passport and ID two days later. Basically, keep trying the registration system, and once it offers an appointment, you’re fine 😀
Dammit I was waiting for a 'you can apply for the biometric passport' letter but I just tried the application regardless and got an appt for tomorrow, thats 3 weeks wasted (3 weeks is up tomorrow) I could probably have had it by now. I'm not sure it's a manual check, mine was 13 minutes between submitting and getting my 'your details are valid' email book an appt.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Final naturalisation update on my part, as I received my passport today, hurray!
So I will be travelling with my new documents

Sept 2020: gathered all the necessary papers from the 3 towns I lived in prior to the current one
27 Sept 2020: took the knowledge test and the german test
01 Oct 2020: mailed my application, after going to my town hall to gather the last papers
05 oct 2020: Canton ZH acknowledges receipt of application
06 oct 2020: received test results, forwarded to town
25 jan 2021: informed that my naturalization appointment with town is on 30 March 2021
26 feb 2021: informed that due to COVID, the decision will be made without me, so we do not need to go to appointment
30 march 2021: town decides favourably to naturalization of my sons and me. They send bill for 500 CHF
22 apr 2021: canton acknowledges receipt from town, and say it can take 4 months before they can do anything
15 juli 2021: canton approves
30 juli 2021: canton forwards to SEM and sends me bill of 500 CHF. They say it can take 7 months
03 sept 2021: SEM sends invoice of 100 CHF
01 nov 2021: canton says the SEM approved and that it can take another 4 months for the final approval
13 dec 2021: golden letter
15 dec 2021: appointment at passbüro, 314 chf for me and my two boys
17 dec 2021: ID cards and passport received

It’s been fun reading this thread.
Roger and out.


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Final message on my part, as I received my passport today, hurray!
So I will be travelling with my new documents
Not to spoil the fun, just a word of advice. Some countries (that I know of) allow for dual-citizenship, but when citizens of said country visits it, they cannot use the other id/passport, or use privileges coming from that fact (e.g. use of consular protection etc.).

As in. It's ok for you to have another passport, but since you're also citizen of our country, we'll treat you like so, no matter what passport you'll decide to show us or nationality to invoke.
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Not to spoil the fun, just a word of advice. Some countries (that I know of) allow for dual-citizenship, but when citizens of said country visits it, they cannot use the other id/passport, or use privileges coming from that fact (e.g. use of consular protection etc.).

As in. It's ok for you to have another passport, but since you're also citizen of our country, we'll treat you like so, no matter what passport you'll decide to show us or nationality to invoke.
here goes my plan to rob a French bank...
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Thought it might be interesting to show the breakdown of the costs for the whole process:

documents - 252 CHF
naturalisation course - 365 CHF
swiss knowledge and german exam - 470 CHF
gemeinde - 500 CHF
kanton - 500 CHF
bund - 100 CHF
passports and ID - 314 CHF

Total - 2501 CHF
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Old 18.12.2021, 16:38
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Final naturalisation update on my part, as I received my passport today, hurray!
So I will be travelling with my new documents

Sept 2020: gathered all the necessary papers from the 3 towns I lived in prior to the current one
27 Sept 2020: took the knowledge test and the german test
01 Oct 2020: mailed my application, after going to my town hall to gather the last papers
05 oct 2020: Canton ZH acknowledges receipt of application
06 oct 2020: received test results, forwarded to town
25 jan 2021: informed that my naturalization appointment with town is on 30 March 2021
26 feb 2021: informed that due to COVID, the decision will be made without me, so we do not need to go to appointment
30 march 2021: town decides favourably to naturalization of my sons and me. They send bill for 500 CHF
22 apr 2021: canton acknowledges receipt from town, and say it can take 4 months before they can do anything
15 juli 2021: canton approves
30 juli 2021: canton forwards to SEM and sends me bill of 500 CHF. They say it can take 7 months
03 sept 2021: SEM sends invoice of 100 CHF
01 nov 2021: canton says the SEM approved and that it can take another 4 months for the final approval
13 dec 2021: golden letter
15 dec 2021: appointment at passbüro, 314 chf for me and my two boys
17 dec 2021: ID cards and passport received

It’s been fun reading this thread.
Roger and out.

I missed that, so no interview? I thought I got lucky having it by phone
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I missed that, so no interview? I thought I got lucky having it by phone
No, I didn't get an interview. My knowledge of CH and German were already evaluated by test. And they looked into my economic and social integration in my absence got lucky...
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Old 19.12.2021, 21:09
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No, I didn't get an interview. My knowledge of CH and German were already evaluated by test. And they looked into my economic and social integration in my absence got lucky...
Haha that was the same for me, although to be honest I think I would have liked to have had that opporunity.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Woohoo, the other day I got my letter saying that my application is now with the SEM and I will soon receive a bill from them for 500chf, upon which point it may take 8 months to finalize everything.

Any guesstimates on how long it should 'generally' take when I pay the SEM bill next week?
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There are timetables on previous pages. I got a SEM bill in July last year, and my Kantonal finalization letter on 25th Nov. Despite official advice, I had passport and ID card a week later - keep trying that bookings portal when the time comes! 😀
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There are timetables on previous pages. I got a SEM bill in July last year, and my Kantonal finalization letter on 25th Nov. Despite official advice, I had passport and ID card a week later - keep trying that bookings portal when the time comes! 😀
Sorry, you are 100% right I should have checked other posts... looks like I should have it around June then!
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

and once more for the sake of completeness

11/03/2020 Gesuchsformular submitted
18/03/2020 Confirmed Received
14/07/2020 More documents requested
13/08/2020 Confirmed sent to Gemeinde
25/02/2021 Email received inviting to einbürgerunggesprach
30/03/2021 Einbürgerungsgesprach
13/04/2021 Response from the Gemeinde and bill CHF 1200
26/06/2021 Bill CHF500
13/08/2021 Bill CHF 100
01/12/2021 Golden letter
16/12/2021 Booked biometrics appt, probably could have booked it earlier
17/12/2021 Biometric appt
22/12/2021 Passport and ID card arrives

Gil out.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

One more step taken, few more remaining... Here is my updated timeline:

2019-12-17 Submitted my application to canton VD
2020-10-09 Canton: invoice for CHF 450, asking for more documents
2020-11-18 Canton: letter saying I didn't have enough years! Asking for further proof of residence
2020-12-09 Canton: accepting my years (got the correct document form the canton itself...)
2020-12-10 Canton: application sent from canton to commune
2020-12-15 Commune: invoice from commune (CHF 250)
2021-04-21 Commune: interview with commune (rapport d-enquête)
2021-04-29 Commune: written exam with commune (basic knowledge test, multiple choice)
2021-06-14 Commune: first phase of communal processing is complete (avis de cloture), free to move inside CHF
2021-08-11 Commune: agreed to grant bourgoisie. Files sent back to Canton
2021-08-18 Canton: accepted the application. File sent to SEM (written to expect 4~7 months pocessing time)
2021-12-30 SEM: invoice for 100 CHF


I suppose the next step is waiting for the golden letter in 4~7 months!

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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Finally it's my turn to post an update. I'm very happy that it's moving along at a good pace:

19 Feb 2021: hand over all the paperwork at the Gemeinde.
15 April 2021: Invoice from the Gemeinde (Fr. 1000)
20 April 2021: Invitation to the Einbürgerungsgespräch
12 May 2021: Einbürgerungsgespräch
29 May 2021: Letter from the Gemeinde saying the Commission approved our application, and will publish the approval for village citizens to oppose for a month
6 July 2021: Letter from the Gemeinde saying that the Auflagefrist was over, and our request will move to the Canton
29 September 2021: Invoice from the Canton for the Einbürgerungsbewilligung
6 January 2022: Invoice from the Canton for the "Erteilung Kantonsbürgerrecht"
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Finally it's my turn to post an update. I'm very happy that it's moving along at a good pace:

19 Feb 2020: hand over all the paperwork at the Gemeinde.
15 April 2020: Invoice from the Gemeinde (Fr. 1000)
20 April 2020: Invitation to the Einbürgerungsgespräch
12 May 2020: Einbürgerungsgespräch
29 May 2020: Letter from the Gemeinde saying the Commission approved our application, and will publish the approval for village citizens to oppose for a month
6 July 2020: Letter from the Gemeinde saying that the Auflagefrist was over, and our request will move to the Canton
29 September 2020: Invoice from the Canton for the Einbürgerungsbewilligung
6 January 2021: Invoice from the Canton for the "Erteilung Kantonsbürgerrecht"
I see you also have to adjust to the whole year changing thing.

Congrats though man looks like its progressing well.
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