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> Would moving to Zurich city simplify things?
> And does Kreis make a difference in Zürich City?
> Or it is anyway depending on the interviewers?

Last time I looked at Bechaeftsbericht of Zurich, only 7 people were rejected out of ~2000. E.g. for my city (one of the larger ones in the canton) around 10% get rejected. I'm not sure what the rejection rates for Duebendorf are, but if it's similar to my city then Zurich might be "easier" I guess. The urban legend says that Zurich is ruled by SP and they're very friendly to expats and their naturalization applications.

Language is a funny thing. I talked to a woman who got naturalized in my city (she passed the B2 exam). She was, according to her words, very stressed during the interview, and the committee made a comment that her "German could be a bit better". Nevertheless they approved her (the alternative would be probably Sistierung - postponing the process by a couple of months rather than rejection anyway I suppose). I felt rather relaxed with my fresh B1 cert (which back then matched my German knowledge level well), and the commitee made no comment on my lang skills.

Someone said recently in this thread that the naturalization committee in Winterhur postponed their process by a couple of months, while asking them to sign up to some additional German courses. So, there's some randomness involved in all of that.

Best probably is to read the Jahres/Gechaeftsbericht for your Gemeinde. They should spell out naturalization stats there.
Many thanks for the tip where to find the stats. Here it is for Dubi but not clear if i read it well. 0 rejected ok, but about acceptance rate?

Page 22 https://www.duebendorf.ch/_docn/3145...richt_2020.pdf
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Old 06.04.2022, 08:21
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Many thanks for the tip where to find the stats. Here it is for Dubi but not clear if i read it well. 0 rejected ok, but about acceptance rate?

Page 22 https://www.duebendorf.ch/_docn/3145...richt_2020.pdf
166/172 made it, more than 96%. For the remaining 6, it's hard to know what happened - Abschreibungen might mean someone did not supply all the required documents, the rest are withdrawals and rejections.
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Overall the interview was a very pleasant and positive experience. If the application process had felt stressful up until the date, upon reflection, this was definitely more self-inflected to get all the documents organized, to prepare well, etc. Certainly the conversation itself was very friendly and to the credit of the interviewer they made an effort to make it so.

The interview was scheduled for an hour but lasted only 45 min. so short and sweet.

To help, they had sent ahead, along with the interview date, a document outlining what to expect during the interview, which listed the topic areas with suggested resources for preparation. The highlighted topics : (i) Motivation for naturalization (ii) Civic rights and responsibilities
(iii) Participation in local activities (iv) Media and current affairs. And these were also the exactly the themes of the questions asked : e.g. what media do you follow ? Name a recent local event that has been in the news ? What local activities do you participate in ? etc.

Worth noting that a good part of the conversation was about validating the basic information submitted in the application. The interviewer reconfirmed that all the information was correct and still up to-date : date of birth, current citizenship, address, phone number, employment status, employer name, designation, whether any judicial or police cases pending; whether paid taxes in full, language certification/test completed, whether Swiss knowledge test passed, etc. Again, all in a very relaxed tone.

To keep in mind if you apply together with your partner/family members you will appear for the interview together but each of you will be asked to answer the questions individually without assistance from the other e.g. what local activity does each individual participate in, etc.
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Quick question for those who have got the passport...

In my Golden Letter, it tells me that I should wait 3 weeks before applying for an appointment to get the Passport / ID.

Now, with my eternal optimism, and having seen that some people on here did it much earlier and got away with it, I chanced my arm and filled out the online form. I got an email back saying I wasn't yet on the register, but that I should receive a confirmation (by post) that I am in 1-2 weeks.

Another friend who got their passport recently said this "Meldebestaetigung" never arrived. Has anyone who recently went through this actually received a confirmation letter that they have been updated on the Personenstandregister, or shall i just leave it a couple more weeks and try again?
So the Meldebestaetigung never (or still hasn't) come. I was however able to book an appointment on Monday to do my biologicals tomorrow morning, so hopefully will have a nice little red book in a week or two...the end is in sight
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Old 08.04.2022, 00:00
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

An update on the timing of the last step in Zürich (Stadt): I have received a notification about SEM's approval on 10 Feb, and the final confirmation (Bürgerrechtsurkunde) arrived on 7 April. So it is more or less 2 months.
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Old 08.04.2022, 09:42
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So the Meldebestaetigung never (or still hasn't) come. I was however able to book an appointment on Monday to do my biologicals tomorrow morning, so hopefully will have a nice little red book in a week or two...the end is in sight
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Here’s my citizenship diary so far for Kanton Zürich, Gemeinde Männedorf:

Sept 2021 Collect all papers together
Oct 2021 Submit citizenship application with all papers
Nov 2021 Kanton Zürich acknowledge receipt and pass application to Gemeinde
Dec 2021 Einbürgerungs Kurs in Horgen
Jan 2022 Einbürgerungs Test in Stäfa (written test, no interview)
Feb 2022 Gemeinde Männedorf confirm I passed the test
Mar 2022 Gemeinde Männedorf confirm they grant me Gemeinderechts
Apr 2022 Pay Männedorf 800 CHF and they pass application to Kanton Zürich

Let’s see how the next parts go with Kanton Zürich and the Bund (SEM) level.
It’s been quite fast so far!

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Anyone receive a 100 CHF bill from SEM for their processing fee? If so, how far along in the process can I assume I am?
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Anyone receive a 100 CHF bill from SEM for their processing fee? If so, how far along in the process can I assume I am?
It was about halfway for me.
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Anyone receive a 100 CHF bill from SEM for their processing fee? If so, how far along in the process can I assume I am?

Depends on your canton. Here it is about 8-10 months before the end of the process (last step before the final cantonal check).
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Anyone receive a 100 CHF bill from SEM for their processing fee? If so, how far along in the process can I assume I am?
We waited 7 months after we paid this bill.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Isn't that bill when they forward it back for the last time to the canton?

If I understand this thread correctly, this means only 2 months of waiting, since there is no other forwarding after this step?
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We got today our golden letter! SEM sent back the papers to Kanton Zurich 5 weeks ago.
So 12 years later, after 14 months of waiting and 4000 CHF later we have a Swiss pass!
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We got today our golden letter! SEM sent back the papers to Kanton Zurich 5 weeks ago.
So 12 years later, after 14 months of waiting and 4000 CHF later we have a Swiss pass!
Congratulations !!
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We got today our golden letter! SEM sent back the papers to Kanton Zurich 5 weeks ago.
So 12 years later, after 14 months of waiting and 4000 CHF later we have a Swiss pass!
Congrats man, I guess mine should arrive really soon then as its been around 4 weeks since my SEM confirmation!
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We got today our golden letter! SEM sent back the papers to Kanton Zurich 5 weeks ago.
So 12 years later, after 14 months of waiting and 4000 CHF later we have a Swiss pass!

Congratulations, cdcdoc!
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Yeah, congrats doc. One more in the bag.
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So the Meldebestaetigung never (or still hasn't) come. I was however able to book an appointment on Monday to do my biologicals tomorrow morning, so hopefully will have a nice little red book in a week or two...the end is in sight
Passport arrived this morning - Process over...BritS over and out!
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Passport arrived this morning - Process over...BritS over and out!
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Passport arrived this morning - Process over...BritS over and out!
Hopppp schwiiizzzzzzzz!
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