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Old 23.04.2018, 20:00
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17.04.2018 - Received letter telling me we are now Swiss


thanks for update. Few Clarifications

1. Where did you receive Letter from 17.04.2018 . Kanton or Stadt
2. What is Name of this Document ?

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Hi,

We received two letters on the same day. One from our local Gemeinde, the other from Kanton Zurich.

There is no name, these are letters.

Details are included on how to get an ID card (Directly from Gemeinde - take photo) or ID + Passport from the passport office.

More info can be found here:

https://ds.zh.ch/internet/sicherheit...ar-textimage_3

And Here:

www.schweizerpass.ch

Use Chrome, it translates the site.

We registered to get the ID & Passport which was done online, then they confirmed by email that our details matched and was sent a link to make our appointment. The appointment page can be shown in English. The photo and fingerprints are all taken at the passport office.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Thanks for your reply .

Local Gemiende is clear It would be your new Meldbestatiging

The other probably certificate for city of zurich " Bürgerrecht Urteil " or some thing else ?
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Old 23.04.2018, 21:43
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Thanks for your reply .

Local Gemiende is clear It would be your new Meldbestatiging

The other probably certificate for city of zurich " Bürgerrecht Urteil " or some thing else ?
Koun, your posts are a bit puzzling to me. What is it you're looking to learn or achieve? Perhaps if you ask some different questions we might be able to point you in the right direction.

I also received a letter for my facilitated naturalization. It's a letter. Not a document, not a certificate. Mine came from the feds, as facilitated naturalization is handled a the federal level.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

thanks

I am trying to learn .what are last twoc documents. As i have also received the Einburgerung Bewilliging from Bern , for which i paid to postman

when i asked city of zurich. they told me i have to wait for two more letters autmotically .... till citizenship is recorded in City of zurich.

So i am trying understand and learn what exactly these documents are called .

Thanks for your patience
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Koun, your posts are a bit puzzling to me. What is it you're looking to learn or achieve? Perhaps if you ask some different questions we might be able to point you in the right direction.

I also received a letter for my facilitated naturalization. It's a letter. Not a document, not a certificate. Mine came from the feds, as facilitated naturalization is handled a the federal level.
Maybe it is the topic or "Betreffzeile" of the letter that Koun needs.
In English letters, this usually appears after that salutation, as in, for example:
"Dear Sir or Madam,

Your application of DATE, Reference Number NUMBER

We are pleased to inform you...."
while in German business letters this usually appears before the salutation, is in,
"Ihr Gesuch vom DATUM, Referenznummer NUMMER

Sehr geehrter Herr NAME, sehr geehrte Frau NAME,

Gerne informieren wir...."
Also, perhaps it would help Koun to know from exactly which government department (with name and address) the letter would arrive.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Yes

Second document is for sure Meldebestatgung .

It would be be good to know about the First Document document . Title in german.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

@Koun Schriftenempfangsschein?
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Thanks info . This is from Your Gemeinde or Kreis buro . You must have a got another Stadt or Gemendie Burger Recht Urtiel ."
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

The second last document is the formal Swiss citizenship document in half white and blue paper from the GemenindeAmt in the Kanton formalising the date you became fully Swiss.

However the accompanying letter to the Urkunde states that this letter doesn't yet allow you to apply for an ID card or passport, but does confirm your new status will be sent to the military etc.

The last document is the invitation in person to come and pick up your Schriftenempfangschein/Meldebestätigung from your Gemeinde/Kreisbüro about 3 weeks later which in exchange for your Ausländerausweis being cancelled allow you to apply for an ID card in Kt. ZH straight away or a Passport/ID Card Kombi at the Passbüro.

If you go for the Kombi at the Passbüro ensure you get the cancelled Ausländerausweis from the Gemeinde/Kreisbüro back as the Passbüro will expect you to still have it (even if already cancelled) when you appear for the biometric capture appointment. You may need to explain this at the Gemeinde/Kreisbüro.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

So, a quick update on my situation.

March 2015 - Applied in Lausanne
April 2016 - Police interview
April 2017 - Commune\Gemeinde interview
May 2017 - Confirmation of Bourgeoisie
Feb 2018 - Confirmation from Canton and documents sent to Federal level
June 2018 - Approval from Federal level and invitation to Assermentation ceremony
September 2018 - Swiss!

Thanks to all on this thread for their journeys, but mine felt particularly long. After 3.5 years, elated but exhausted. Good luck to everyone in the process.

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Wow! congratulations MarkJ!
My story sounds a bit similar, but looking at your experience I realize that I may be only slightly farther than half-way.

March 2015 - Applied in Lausanne
April 2016 - Police interview
April 2017 - Commune interview
... and now waiting...
Looking at the rhythm - April 2018 - Fondue party! probably
Although I hope to be done by end of the year, but it's Lausanne, so you never know.
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Old 06.09.2018, 13:13
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So, a quick update on my situation.

March 2015 - Applied in Lausanne
April 2016 - Police interview
April 2017 - Commune\Gemeinde interview
May 2017 - Confirmation of Bourgeoisie
Feb 2018 - Confirmation from Canton and documents sent to Federal level
June 2018 - Approval from Federal level and invitation to Assermentation ceremony
September 2018 - Swiss!

Thanks to all on this thread for their journeys, but mine felt particularly long. After 3.5 years, elated but exhausted. Good luck to everyone in the process.

Cheers
Congratulations and thanks for updating your timeline.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Hi all,


Let me share my story that hopefully can be helpful to some of you. This is my timeline in Kanton Zurich, city of Dietikon

  • Late February 2017 - sent the required documents to Gemeindeamt Zurich
  • One month later received confirmation (per post) that my application is with the Gemeinde (city of Dietikon) and that they will contact me sometime in the future
  • January 2018 received invitation to do German and naturalization tests together with a bill (3 tests -2 German one natural.; each costs 180 CHF) that has to be paid in order to be admitted to the exams
  • 23/24.02.2018 all test in two days
  • 06.03.2018 received results by mail (all good)
  • week later received invitation to meet with a delegation of the Stadtrat and was asked to provide my payroll for the last 6 months
  • 27.03.2018 had very pleasant conversation with members of the Stadtrat - was asked why I want to become Swiss, what is my profession, etc, very easy and friendly conversation
  • End of April received letter from the Gemeinde that we are granted the local citizenship together with a bill of 1'500 CHF
  • 23.05.2018 Kanton Zurich granted the cantonal citizenship with a bill of 500 CHF. My application was sent by the Gemeindeamt Zurich to SEM Bern
  • 24.09.2018 received the famous letter from SEM (paid 115 CHF to pick it up from the post office, as I missed the post guy)
  • 25.09.2018 I sent the Einbürgerungsbewilligung für den Kanton Zürich together with a copy of the payments of the Gemeinde and Konton fees to Gemeindeamt Zurich
  • 09.10.2018 received a letter from the Gemeindeamt that we are Swiss
Next is the Meldebestätigung from the Gemeinde and only then we can apply for the passport. This is now just formality and I guess it will be in the coming days.


Hope my post helps those who applied somewhere in Canton Zurich and are waiting, and wondering how long it takes. Of course each application is individual and depends on many factors, but I guess there are certain similarities in the timing. By the way it seems that Gemeindeamt Zurich send their mails only Mondays and you get them in your postbox on Tuesday.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Hi, I received a letter from my gemainde 1 month after the positive feedback from the interview saying that they will need the town council to approve too.

Did it happen to you too? Tks.

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Hi all,


Let me share my story that hopefully can be helpful to some of you. This is my timeline in Kanton Zurich, city of Dietikon

  • Late February 2017 - sent the required documents to Gemeindeamt Zurich
  • One month later received confirmation (per post) that my application is with the Gemeinde (city of Dietikon) and that they will contact me sometime in the future
  • January 2018 received invitation to do German and naturalization tests together with a bill (3 tests -2 German one natural.; each costs 180 CHF) that has to be paid in order to be admitted to the exams
  • 23/24.02.2018 all test in two days
  • 06.03.2018 received results by mail (all good)
  • week later received invitation to meet with a delegation of the Stadtrat and was asked to provide my payroll for the last 6 months
  • 27.03.2018 had very pleasant conversation with members of the Stadtrat - was asked why I want to become Swiss, what is my profession, etc, very easy and friendly conversation
  • End of April received letter from the Gemeinde that we are granted the local citizenship together with a bill of 1'500 CHF
  • 23.05.2018 Kanton Zurich granted the cantonal citizenship with a bill of 500 CHF. My application was sent by the Gemeindeamt Zurich to SEM Bern
  • 24.09.2018 received the famous letter from SEM (paid 115 CHF to pick it up from the post office, as I missed the post guy)
  • 25.09.2018 I sent the Einbürgerungsbewilligung für den Kanton Zürich together with a copy of the payments of the Gemeinde and Konton fees to Gemeindeamt Zurich
  • 09.10.2018 received a letter from the Gemeindeamt that we are Swiss
Next is the Meldebestätigung from the Gemeinde and only then we can apply for the passport. This is now just formality and I guess it will be in the coming days.


Hope my post helps those who applied somewhere in Canton Zurich and are waiting, and wondering how long it takes. Of course each application is individual and depends on many factors, but I guess there are certain similarities in the timing. By the way it seems that Gemeindeamt Zurich send their mails only Mondays and you get them in your postbox on Tuesday.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Dear Joey,


Yes, at the end of the interview I was told that I am well integrated and that they will recommend the city council to vote positively. After a month I got then the letter with for the gemeinde einbürgerung. If you have positive feedback, than it is just a formality.


So the council approval is part of the process, but the most important one is the interview that you have already passed.


All the best
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Hello All


I also live in Dübendorf, I started the process in February 2018. My partner is Swiss (but we are not married) and we have a child (soon 16 years old, Swiss citizen as well).


-Feb 2018- I sent all papers to Gemeindeamt ZH
-April 2018 - I had the test about Switzerland and Kt. ZH (German certificate B1 I have since 2005)
-September 2018 - I had the interview with Stadtrat - 2 people from 7 (one was the city president) plus one from Einbürgerung (they asked questions about the city and few about me, I learned too much for this interview; it was planned for 30 minutes, after 15 minutes I finished it)- they told me that they need to decide at the next meeting which they have and if it will be positive, I'll be invited by Gemeinderat for the last interview (this is only to know each other); next day I wrote to the lady from Einbürgerung and asked how much time it takes until I receive the info regarding the next interview; she told me that my interview was successful and the secretary from Gemeinderat will inform me, when she knows exactly, but it will be in February or March this year...I asked again in November and she wrote me that I'm planned for February..in December I received the invitation.


Dübendorf is special, we have 2 interviews at Gemeinde.

The city president told me that he thinks that I'll receive the citizenship in September this year.

I'll keep you posted.
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Re: Normal Naturalisation - applicant diary

Howdy! I submitted my registration bumf in Zürich on the 15th Jan, and am waiting to hear back.

Judging by the timescales quoted here, it looks like I’m not at imminent risk of interview in the next month, so plenty of time for geopgraphy/history/political/language brush-up homework.

I went to see Zwingli @Kosmos last weekend as part of this, which was interesting, but despit the internet posting on Kineman listing it DE there, it was in Schwyzerdoooootsch... 🙄
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Hello All,

Has anyone already received the Swiss Nationality in Geneva with the new procedure?

I passed the interview at the beginning of January. I was wondering how long it takes before getting the final confirmation.
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In Geneva (old system) 18 months:

2017 Feb - ok to apply.
2017 Feb - Aug - paperwork collection, exams etc.
2017 Sep - file accepted.
2017 Oct - 1st interview.
2018 Mar - final interview.
2018 Aug - ceremony.
2018 Oct - ID and passport.

New system has fewer applicants so procedure itself should take less time.
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Hello All,

Has anyone already received the Swiss Nationality in Geneva with the new procedure?

I passed the interview at the beginning of January. I was wondering how long it takes before getting the final confirmation.
Did your interview include examination of your knowledge of Swiss history, geography, politics, etc? And, did you receive a "study guide" beforehand? Many thanks.

- DM
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Hello DM,
I got some general questions about Swiss history, geography, politics. I did not get any "study guide".
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