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Old 15.07.2013, 11:53
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Re: Facilitated naturalisation: Moving town, not canton

Well I contacted BFM directly and they called me up to clarify.

Turns out my local guy was wrong. It really is 3 years married, 5 years in Switzerland total and 12 of the last months here, wherever in Switzerland. He said the guy in my town was falsely informed about having to live a whole year there first.

And to JeanValJean, he told me that I can apply 2-3 weeks before my Wohnsitz is fulfilled. I asked him to repeat that several times to make sure, and I probably will wait the full 5 years anyway, but he said I just need to make sure my papers are all less than 6 months old and then I can apply 2-3 weeks before the 5 years and start the process.

YAY.
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And to JeanValJean, he told me that I can apply 2-3 weeks before my Wohnsitz is fulfilled. I asked him to repeat that several times to make sure, and I probably will wait the full 5 years anyway, but he said I just need to make sure my papers are all less than 6 months old and then I can apply 2-3 weeks before the 5 years and start the process.

YAY.
Great
And yes, I remember when I have be re-requested to provide the documents, it was stated that the documents should not be older than 6 months when the procedure kicks in.
2/3 weeks should indeed be absolutely fine

Let me/us know if you need more info during the process and all the best!
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Re: Facilitated naturalisation: Moving town, not canton

My company is hiring someone for a job in St Gallen who lives in Aargau. She is naturalising (regular) and recently was approved by her Gemeinde in Aargau. She cannot move to St Gallen area until she receives Aargau naturalisation and said that it could take up to one year to obtain this next step, according to a document on Ct. Aargau's website. (Her train commute will take two hours each direction so she needs to move.)

One year seems like a long time for this second step. Does anyone have experience in naturalising in Aargau who could provide details of its duration?

Thank you for any assistance.
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Old 16.07.2013, 10:29
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My company is hiring someone for a job in St Gallen who lives in Aargau. She is naturalising (regular) and recently was approved by her Gemeinde in Aargau. She cannot move to St Gallen area until she receives Aargau naturalisation and said that it could take up to one year to obtain this next step, according to a document on Ct. Aargau's website. (Her train commute will take two hours each direction so she needs to move.)
No experience with Aargau rules, but in ZH, colleagues have taken one year (or more) to get the final documents for their Swiss citizenship the normal route.

It is possible to commute 4 hours a day, she would just not have a social life. I had that for awhile and it was killer. If she can spare it, I would recommend getting a second flat or a room in one of the cantons so that her main residence is still in Aargau, but so that she can sleep in St. Gallen during the week. Maybe a viable opportunity to survive the commute, so long as she keeps all her mail and official residence in Aargau. (And not just a post box!) Or maybe the company is also willing to let her have a couple days of "at home" office if it is possible for this transition period.
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Re: Facilitated naturalisation: Moving town, not canton

As far as I know if the Gemeinde has approved she can move anywhere in the Aargau Canton and not have a problem. If she is in Baden it will not take that long to St. Gallen...

But regarding how long it can take... Up to one year is assuming everything runs smoothly. It can and sometimes does take much longer. And there is no way to know and no way to speed it up. If you try and put them under pressure I get the impression that they just put you back to the bottom of the pile.

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One year seems like a long time for this second step. Does anyone have experience in naturalising in Aargau who could provide details of its duration?

Thank you for any assistance.
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I would recommend getting a second flat or a room in one of the cantons so that her main residence is still in Aargau, but so that she can sleep in St. Gallen during the week.
Second that, and just commute Monday and Friday.

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Re: Facilitated naturalisation: Moving town, not canton

I agree. If she can rent a room for four nights during the week near the company this would be best. She could then be home three nights a week. After the naturalisation is complete, she can then decide whether she should move to St Gallen or at least closer.

In the past we hired two people with 1.5 to 2 hour commutes each way. One lasted six months and the other about 1 1/2 years. It was difficult to know whether the long commutes were a primary reason or just a contributing factor for moving on.

A document on the Canton Aargau website states that it normally takes about one year for the completion of the naturalisation at the cantonal level:
"Das Departement Volkswirtschaft und Inneres holt nach Prüfung des Gesuches die eidgenössische Einbürgerungsbewilligung ein und leitet die Akten mit Bericht und Antrag an die Kommission für Justiz des Grossen Rates weiter. Die Kommission entscheidet über die Einbürgerung abschliessend, sofern der Grosse Rat nicht selber entscheidet. Das Verfahren auf Kantonsebene dauert im Normalfall ca. 1 Jahr."

https://www.ag.ch/media/kanton_aarga...011_100512.pdf
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