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lauseur 20.09.2013 15:26

US person with dual Swiss/EU spouse, living in CH: any EU privileges?
 
Hi folks: odd question, weird situation (used the search function to verify this) -- maybe I need an analogous English Forum Germany to ask ...?
I'm hoping someone might have some useful input, from experience or general knowledge.
I'm an American married to a dual Swiss/German national (a nice lady in fact) :)
We've been married, living here for 3.5 years; I've got a B permit, family regroupment with activity ("lucrative" - it hasn't been very).
Can anyone tell me if her German/EU status conveys any of that sweet EU goodness to me, simply by virtue of being married, even if we're not living in the EU?
On an EU info site I found only references to being able to get a permanent residence card after living in an EU country for 5 years, which is very far from applying to me.
My situation is that I am looking at university programs in EU countries, and they offer cheaper tuition/fees for "EU applicants" without better defining what an EU applicant is. In job searches, too, even when looking for jobs in Switzerland, I've seen requests for "EU candidates".
The obvious answer is that I'm non-EU and I'm not entitled to anything. I'm hoping someone might have a contrary opinion, with some basis to argue the point.
Thanks

taskalem 20.09.2013 15:45

Re: US person with dual Swiss/EU spouse, living in CH: any EU privileges?
 
Are you sure about the "EU candidates" part?

Because what I see most of the time is "EU/EFTA citizenship or a valid work permit" meaning you qualify for all the jobs in Switzerland. The hardest part in finding a job in Switzerland is getting the work permit which you already have... you have it right? After having your work permit there's no hassle for employers to employ you.

swiss_in_training 20.09.2013 16:18

Re: US person with dual Swiss/EU spouse, living in CH: any EU privileges?
 
Short answer: no, having a Swiss/German spouse doesn't help you much.

As far as University fees go, you're not EU. You can't claim the citizenship of your spouse.

As far as EU candidates are concerned, this is probably related to the type of permit you have. You are probably on a non-EU B permit (the credit card type that is renewed every year) and so are not an EU candidate. However, as taskalem stated, you already have the permit, so in your applications, you should explicitly state this. If it makes you feel better, in another 1.5 years, you'll get the magic C permit, which doesn't distinguish between EU and non-EU.

At least this is my experience (US married to Swiss).

LearningAlways 20.09.2013 17:27

Re: US person with dual Swiss/EU spouse, living in CH: any EU privileges?
 
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Originally Posted by swiss_in_training (Post 1979863)

As far as University fees go, you're not EU. You can't claim the citizenship of your spouse.

Most Swiss and EU university fees are very low to start with, and my impression is that in some cases your residency here may qualify you for "non-international" fees. Have you talked to any of the universities you are considering?

lauseur 20.09.2013 18:41

Re: US person with dual Swiss/EU spouse, living in CH: any EU privileges?
 
Yes I've got my permit ... like i said, it's a weird problem/question. I've got no work permit problem with respect to Switzerland; it's more a question of what I get, if anything, with respect to the EU. As said before, I would guess that the correct answer is nada.

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Originally Posted by LearningAlways (Post 1979914)
Most Swiss and EU university fees are very low to start with, and my impression is that in some cases your residency here may qualify you for "non-international" fees. Have you talked to any of the universities you are considering?

I've just been looking at websites, and so far I see one Swiss program (Graduate Institute in Geneva) with an incredibly low price tag (especially by US law standards) where legal residence in Switzerland makes it about a 1/2 price action. I haven't seen something similar when looking at other Swiss "international" (read: english language) LLM programs in, say, Bern or Zurich. The program I was looking at that prompted this question about EU status was actually in the UK, Reading.

LearningAlways 20.09.2013 19:04

Re: US person with dual Swiss/EU spouse, living in CH: any EU privileges?
 
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Originally Posted by lauseur (Post 1979970)
I've just been looking at websites, and so far I see one Swiss program (Graduate Institute in Geneva) with an incredibly low price tag (especially by US law standards) where legal residence in Switzerland makes it about a 1/2 price action. I haven't seen something similar when looking at other Swiss "international" (read: english language) LLM programs in, say, Bern or Zurich. The program I was looking at that prompted this question about EU status was actually in the UK, Reading.

Not sure what an LLM program is, but for the UK, definitely talk to the university directly. There your 3+ years of Swiss residency may or may not qualify you for home fees - apparently the UK universities are not consistent about how they make those determinations.


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