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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

It is still valid. If they change the law they have to update the information available to the public.

What is your source for this information?
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

Hello Guys,

Thank you again for your replies. Just wondering, in my case, does it really matter how long I have been living in Switzerland? I have stayed out of Switzerland for the first four years of my marriage, and moved to Switzerland last year. So by the end of this year we will celebrate our fifth anniversary of marriage, however I have lived in Switzerland only for a year.
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

If I'm reading the other posts correctly, you have to have lived together (conjugal community, from Tom's post) at least 3 years even if you've been married for 5.
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

hello,I read some posts but its hard to figure out, could anyone tell me if I am from non-eu and I get married to swiss, how long it takes to take B permit, because I have right only 6months stay in switzerland because of my D type visa
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

No, you don't. If your fiance applies for a fiance permit (note permit, not visa) for you that will give you enough time to arrange the wedding here. The Type D visa will not be granted unless you have been granted the fiance permit. I'm not sure if that will be a B permit or an L to start, given that you still have to sort the wedding out, but afterwards - if it is an L - it can be changed to a B.

If you are getting married abroad then you/he will have to get the marriage recognised here which can be done via the Swiss embassy in the country where you get married or are living. Again, the Type D visa will not be granted until a permit for you is approved.

More on marriage, both doing it here or abroad, here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/marriage/
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No, you don't. If your fiance applies for a fiance permit (note permit, not visa) for you that will give you enough time to arrange the wedding here. The Type D visa will not be granted unless you have been granted the fiance permit. I'm not sure if that will be a B permit or an L to start, given that you still have to sort the wedding out, but afterwards - if it is an L - it can be changed to a B.

If you are getting married abroad then you/he will have to get the marriage recognised here which can be done via the Swiss embassy in the country where you get married or are living. Again, the Type D visa will not be granted until a permit for you is approved.

More on marriage, both doing it here or abroad, here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/marriage/
firstly thanks you very much for the answer. but what do you mean in "fiance permit". how it can be approved if I just apply for D visa
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firstly thanks you very much for the answer. but what do you mean in "fiance permit". how it can be approved if I just apply for D visa
The Type D visa has to have a reason for being issued: marriage, family reunification, non-EU job offer, etc. You can't get just the visa on it's own, a permit based on one of the reasons has to be approved first. No one can be here for more than 3 months without becoming a resident and to do that you need to apply for a permit.

If you want to marry here then your fiancÚ needs to apply for a fiancÚ permit for you while at the same time you apply at the Swiss embassy in the country you're living in for the Type D visa - the 2 will be matched up during the process. If the permit is approved the visa will be issued to you. If the permit isn't approved then the visa won't be issued.

You can see/study the form here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...sumd-en-de.pdf

If/when the permit is approved you'll get the Type D visa stamped in your passport and then you'll have a set period of time when you must enter Switzerland. Once you've done that you then go to the cantonal migration office to start the process of getting your pre-approved permit issued to you. This will take a few weeks as you'll need to give biometric info a week or so into the process. Once you have your permit the Type D visa is null and void as the permit takes its place for travel purposes.
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The Type D visa has to have a reason for being issued: marriage, family reunification, non-EU job offer, etc. You can't get just the visa on it's own, a permit based on one of the reasons has to be approved first. No one can be here for more than 3 months without becoming a resident and to do that you need to apply for a permit.

If you want to marry here then your fiancÚ needs to apply for a fiancÚ permit for you while at the same time you apply at the Swiss embassy in the country you're living in for the Type D visa - the 2 will be matched up during the process. If the permit is approved the visa will be issued to you. If the permit isn't approved then the visa won't be issued.

You can see/study the form here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...sumd-en-de.pdf

If/when the permit is approved you'll get the Type D visa stamped in your passport and then you'll have a set period of time when you must enter Switzerland. Once you've done that you then go to the cantonal migration office to start the process of getting your pre-approved permit issued to you. This will take a few weeks as you'll need to give biometric info a week or so into the process. Once you have your permit the Type D visa is null and void as the permit takes its place for travel purposes.

oh great thanks.and it have to be exactly the same days?when I bring the documents in my embassy and he applies in switzerland?
but when he called there they didnt say anything about it. we thought that onLy I have to ask for visa.

and one more question I have. according to this "Applications should be handed in at least two weeks and not more than 3 month prior the departing date." -if I plan to depart on july 25, I have to apply on April 25? not earlier?
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

Probably not exactly the same dates, but close to being the same. He applies first and then you maybe 2-3 days later perhaps. If you want to do it the same day, it'll be no problem though, just what works best for you two. If he's living in your country at the moment then he can apply at the embassy there.

Yes, not before 25th April. If you can however, I wouldn't book any flights until you've had confirmation of the permit/visa being approved in case there's any delays in getting approval. It may cost more for the flight, but at least you'll know the permit/visa is okay. Depending on where you're living it can take some time for the process to work through, especially if there's any problem with the paperwork, and any pre-booked flight may have to be cancelled if approval isn't given in time.
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Probably not exactly the same dates, but close to being the same. He applies first and then you maybe 2-3 days later perhaps. If you want to do it the same day, it'll be no problem though, just what works best for you two. If he's living in your country at the moment then he can apply at the embassy there.

Yes, not before 25th April. If you can however, I wouldn't book any flights until you've had confirmation of the permit/visa being approved in case there's any delays in getting approval. It may cost more for the flight, but at least you'll know the permit/visa is okay. Depending on where you're living it can take some time for the process to work through, especially if there's any problem with the paperwork, and any pre-booked flight may have to be cancelled if approval isn't given in time.
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and ho you know all these?

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Probably not exactly the same dates, but close to being the same. He applies first and then you maybe 2-3 days later perhaps. If you want to do it the same day, it'll be no problem though, just what works best for you two. If he's living in your country at the moment then he can apply at the embassy there.

Yes, not before 25th April. If you can however, I wouldn't book any flights until you've had confirmation of the permit/visa being approved in case there's any delays in getting approval. It may cost more for the flight, but at least you'll know the permit/visa is okay. Depending on where you're living it can take some time for the process to work through, especially if there's any problem with the paperwork, and any pre-booked flight may have to be cancelled if approval isn't given in time.
by now all my documents are ready. I was planning to go to the embassy tomorrow, but now I think it has no sense. or I think I go there and in the field "planned day of departure" I write 10july and I leave in the end of july. but do you think if there is written july 10 its better if I leave that day and not later?...
sorry for having so many questions:/

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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

I can't see much point in going until your fiancÚ has done their part. Yes, you could put the paperwork in a bit earlier if you lie about the date, but what will that get you? Until there's an application for a fiancÚ permit for you the visa paperwork will just sit in the embassy's office.

Reading lots of threads on the subject here, using www.ch.ch and www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home.html as resources, searches both here on the forum and googling, etc.
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