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Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

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I am a Non-EU citizen, married to a Swiss in 2009, since then lived in different countries and finally moved to Switzerland in 09/2012. When am I eligible to apply for a C-Permit? Thanks for the help
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Old 06.11.2013, 11:34
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

Not sure for those married to Swiss nationals as the rules are sometimes different. But have you considered applying for facilitated naturalisation to get Swiss citizenship? That would only take 5 years of living here provided you meet the other requirements:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm...uergerung.html
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Hello everyone,

I am a Non-EU citizen, married to a Swiss in 2009, since then lived in different countries and finally moved to Switzerland in 09/2012. When am I eligible to apply for a C-Permit? Thanks for the help
You can apply for Swiss citizenship after having lived in CH for 5 years and been married for 3 years. C-permit is normally after 10 years of living in CH, but you can apply after 5 years.
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

Hello Medea Fleecestealer & Island Monkey,

Thank you very much for your prompt replies and really appreciate your help. Yes I'm aware that I could apply for citizenship after completing 5 years in Switzerland. However for the moment I'm annoyed with the fact that I have to renew my B-permit every year(since I'm a Non-EU?) and regarding taxation, I am no different to a C-permit holder/Swiss. That's Why I was wondering if I could apply for C-Permit
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

You still have to wait five years for the C.

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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

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You still have to wait five years for the C.

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Thanks Tom. I have no choice for the next 4 years, but to renew my permit annually then.
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However for the moment I'm annoyed with the fact that I have to renew my B-permit every year(since I'm a Non-EU?).
Nothing to do with being Non-EU it's to do with being married to a Swiss Citizen. I'm an EU citizen and I only get a 1 year B as well .
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Thanks Tom. I have no choice for the next 4 years, but to renew my permit annually then.
Yes, at which point you could also become Swiss.

1. Article 27 Naturalization Act
The foreign spouse of a Swiss national who has lived in Switzerland for at least five years, has lived here for one year, and has lived in conjugal community with the Swiss spouse for three years.

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You only have to be married five years to get a Swiss passport, not live here five years.

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No, you have to have lived in Switzerland for 5 years and have been married for 3 years. If you live outside Switzerland then you have to have been married for 6 years.

"Foreign spouses of Swiss nationals who have lived in Switzerland for a year may apply for facilitated naturalisation after three years of marriage, provided they have lived in Switzerland for a total of five years. People who have close ties with Switzerland may apply for facilitated naturalisation even if they are resident abroad. In such cases, however, they must have been married to a Swiss spouse for at least six years."
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No, you have to have lived in Switzerland for 5 years
Total, not consecutively.

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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

C permit for non EU usually up to. 5 years. And you need to renew the B uptill then. You need to be married for 3 years and be living in Switzerland for 5, and in Zurich if that is your canton, for 6 years untill you are ELIGIBLE to apply. The process can take up to 1.8 years.
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Nothing to do with being Non-EU it's to do with being married to a Swiss Citizen. I'm an EU citizen and I only get a 1 year B as well .
My apologies for the misunderstanding. I thought EU citizens are eligible for a B-permit renewable every 5 years and not annually!!
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in Zurich if that is your canton, for 6 years
Not for facilitated naturalization.

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My apologies for the misunderstanding. I thought EU citizens are eligible for a B-permit renewable every 5 years and not annually!!
Yep. You are if you have an unlimited employment contract, lots of money or are married to another 5 year B-permit holder. If you are married to a Swiss citizen without an unlimited employment contract, then you get a 1 year permit.
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Yep. You are if you have an unlimited employment contract, lots of money or are married to another 5 year B-permit holder. If you are married to a Swiss citizen without an unlimited employment contract, then you get a 1 year permit.
I have an unlimited employment contract and I hope it will not make any difference in my case. So then only option I have is to wait for the next 4 years to apply for citizenship / C-permit(which will not make any sense if I can apply for the citizenship at the same time)

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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

I think you'll wind up with the C permit while the citizenship request is in process. You'll get your usual annual paperwork for the B permit in the mail, and at that time you'll write on it that you want a C for the renewal. They will respond with whatever documentation you need to get the C and it should follow quickly if all paperwork (and payment) is in order.

At that same time you can apply for facilitated naturalization, but my understanding is it requires a few more pieces of paper and a little longer for processing. I don't know anyone that's gone straight from B permit to citizenship but I suppose it's possible if the stars align correctly. Someone else with direct experience might be able to share his/her experience.
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

Just heard that from now on to get the citizenship, if you are married or not to a swiss, you need the c permit first.

So 5 years for married citizens with swiss spouses, then apply for c permit, wonder how long that takes to come? and 10 for those not married to a swiss.

And as Zurich is now 6 years in order to get citizenship, for those with Swiss spouses, so after 5 years get the C first. And apply for the citizenship after the 6th year will starts
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

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Just heard that from now on to get the citizenship, if you are married or not to a swiss, you need the c permit first.

So 5 years for married citizens with swiss spouses, then apply for c permit, wonder how long that takes to come? and 10 for those not married to a swiss.

And as Zurich is now 6 years in order to get citizenship, for those with Swiss spouses, so after 5 years get the C first. And apply for the citizenship after the 6th year will starts
I dont think this is correct ( C permit requirement).

One can also apply via article 28, which means married to a swiss for 6 years without having lived in switzerland at all, and no c permit required. This can be applied for from within or external to switzerland.

2. Article 28 Naturalization Act
The foreign spouse of a Swiss national who has close links with Switzerland and has lived in conjugal community with the Swiss spouse for at least six years. An application is also possible if the person concerned is resident abroad.

https://www.bfm.admin.ch//bfm/en/hom...uergerung.html
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

I know what you mean. But, I heard this is a very recent thing. That one needs the C permit first. I did not have a look at the link you posted yet, but is it up to date?
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Re: Non-EU, married to a Swiss with B-Permit

Just read it. That was last modified in 2010
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