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Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

Hi guys
this is a bit embarassing, but I cannot find the answer to my question.
My boy friend is American and he has spent 4 years in Switzerland since 2003 when he came to get his MBA. After that he was in a rotation program with a big international company and worked in Spain and Australia before coming back to Basel to work at HQ again. He was always employed by the same company but his B permit record has "gaps".

He believes that, since he is American, he could apply for a CH passport after having been in Switzerland for 5 years. This seems to be a special agreement between the US and CH.

Has anyone heard about this before? If so, could you please advise what one needs to do to get the dearly loved red passport?
In case this is not correct, what would the proper process be to change his current B permit into something more stable?
Also, I would appreciate your advise on the same process once we're tying the knot

Thanks already for your help.
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Old 24.02.2008, 00:00
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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

I think the requirement is ten years.... without gaps...

Definitely not five years.

Please correct if I'm wrong.
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Old 24.02.2008, 00:05
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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

No special agreements that I know of between USA and CH. 5 years if married and 12 years if not. The years under 18 count as double.
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Old 24.02.2008, 08:21
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He believes that, since he is American, he could apply for a CH passport after having been in Switzerland for 5 years. This seems to be a special agreement between the US and CH.
It is not correct - 10 years or 5 years if married to a Swiss citizen. Also, the time starts counting from his last return to Switzerland i.e. after the gaps. It has to be continual residence.

I think he is thinking of the special arrangement between Switzerland and the USA + Canada regarding C permit. This gets the C permit after 5 years instead of 10.

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Has anyone heard about this before? If so, could you please advise what one needs to do to get the dearly loved red passport?
In case this is not correct, what would the proper process be to change his current B permit into something more stable?
By something more stable you mean a C permit? For this, A USA citizen needs to be continually resident (no gaps) for 5 years.

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Also, I would appreciate your advise on the same process once we're tying the knot

Thanks already for your help.
5 years continually resident and married to a Swiss for those 5 years.
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It is not correct - 10 years or 5 years if married to a Swiss citizen. Also, the time starts counting from his last return to Switzerland i.e. after the gaps. It has to be continual residence.
Twelve years, not ten. Gaps are accepted, however, you must have lived in Switzerland at least three of the last five years. Also, the cantons have minimum residency rules before you can apply ranging from two years to a lot more. Those years have to be continuous counted backwards from the moment one applies.
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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

5 years continually resident and married to a Swiss for those 5 years.[/QUOTE]

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married for 3 years.
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Old 26.02.2008, 18:55
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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

For those not married to a Swiss citizen, there are 3 criteria to be fulfilled:
* The Confederation requires 10 years residence in Switzerland.
* Maybe there are cantons requiring 12 years! That would explain why this forum has both 10 year and 12 year estimates.
* Most important of all, the commune may require 1 to 5 years residency in their jurisdiction. Note that you become "citizen" of a "city". Some smaller communes require the local population to vote approval!

For those married to a Swiss citizen, the so-called "Swiss light" requirements are:
* 5 years marriage to the Swiss citizen
* "Close links" with Switzerland. A bit woolly this. If the applicant spouse has lived here 5 years, that is fine. Also qualifying would be living abroad, if the citizen spouse was delegated there as employee of a Swiss company, or the applicant spouse went to school here, etc. Good news is that "Swiss light" does not require any ballots and is processed relatively quickly.
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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home/...uergerung.html

Article 27 covers the "married to a Swiss" angle....

Facilitated Naturalization [including obligations for males]
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For those not married to a Swiss citizen, there are 3 criteria to be fulfilled:
* The Confederation requires 10 years residence in Switzerland.
* Maybe there are cantons requiring 12 years! That would explain why this forum has both 10 year and 12 year estimates.
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That is wrong. Refer to art. 15 al. 1 of the federal citizenship law which clearly states twelve years.The Confederation requires 10 years for the C permit.
By the way, I don't give estimates.
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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

Three years of marriage are required not 5, but 5 years of residency, for facilitated naturalization process & if you are living in Switzerland.

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Re: Is there a "short-cut" for an American to get the CH passport?

I've got a question. I've been here in Kt. Zug for 5 years, C permit is on it's way via snail mail. My son (22 months) and his soon to be brother are both Swiss/ American. I'm marrying the father of my children in May (we've been living together since 2005 and my B permit was under 'beim Lebenspartner'). Technically when can I apply for the CH pass?
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Old 27.02.2008, 08:30
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I've got a question. I've been here in Kt. Zug for 5 years, C permit is on it's way via snail mail. My son (22 months) and his soon to be brother are both Swiss/ American. I'm marrying the father of my children in May (we've been living together since 2005 and my B permit was under 'beim Lebenspartner'). Technically when can I apply for the CH pass?
after 5 years of marriage (where you're living together).
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after 5 years of marriage (where you're living together).
Just wanted to update & correct you Lob. We had the marriage paperwork done yesterday and was informed that after 3 years of marriage I can apply for the passport since I already have the 5 years residence covered.
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Old 15.04.2008, 10:42
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Just wanted to update & correct you Lob. We had the marriage paperwork done yesterday and was informed that after 3 years of marriage I can apply for the passport since I already have the 5 years residence covered.
He doesn't want to listen! He's been corrected, in bold even, already.
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