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Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone else could help clarify my understanding of the process of obtaining Work Permit, Visa D and the Resident Permit for Zurich, Switzerland.

I have this week signed a Contract with a firm in Zurich. The Firm has submitted necessary documents to apply for a Work Permit to hire me as a NON-EU national. I am Australian.

My understanding of the process from reading the Swiss Immigration Websites in both French (currently I am in Paris on a working-holiday visa) and in English (from the Swiss consulate website in Sydney, Australia) is as follows:

1. Secure job and execute Contract. Employer submits application to the Canton and the process begins to go through the Canton and then the Federal Government department FOM.

2. In parallel, The employee, being me is to apply for a long-stay Visa D at the consulate in the country which I am currently residing, being France.
QUESTION: Do I have to do this in parallel with the application my employer has submitted or do I have to wait til after I have received positive response on the work permit?
OR has my employer already requested this Visa D by submitting the application?

3. Once the Work Permit has been approved by the numerous Swiss authorities they will advise the 'relevant Swiss diplomatic representation abroad' to issue visa.
QUESTION: What visa is this? the Visa D? or the Work Permit? As the address that i have provided my employer is the French address, can I as an Australian apply for the Visa D at the Swiss consulate in France?

4. I am to collect the visa/permit (questions above) from the 'relevant Swiss diplomatic representation abroad' which I assume should be a visa sticker inside my passport. Is this correct?

5. Once I have obtained this long-stay Visa D in my passport I can then enter Switzerland and register to apply for my 'residency permit L or B'. This may take sometime so I can ask for a 'temporary residency permit', in the meantime I can commence work.

Would appreciate any comments to help guide me. I am stressed out that I have to apply for a Visa D which will take up to 8 weeks - and the employer wants me to start in 6 weeks. I gather my employer does not know much about the residency permit process, although they have sponsored non-EU employees before.

Thank you very much. Appreciate all your time.
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Old 19.01.2014, 17:13
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

When (or if) the Swiss authorities approve your work/residence permit application, you will get a D visa which allows you to enter the country. On arriving you need to register at your local Gemeinde to get your work/residence permit. I don't think this should take too long as it's already been approved.

I've never heard of a "temporary permit" but I think if your permit has been approved you can start work before the actual permit arrives... This is how it works for non-EU anyway, you don't have to have the permit in your hand to start work.
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Thanks Island Monkey,

Do you know where the Visa D is issued from? The consulate in the abroad country?

So i just sit tight and don't have to make any applications myself?

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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

You apply for your visa at the same time as your employer is applying for your permit. If the permit isn't approved, you won't get the visa. The two will be matched up in the application process so don't worry. The visa allows you as a non-EU citizen to enter Switzerland long term, i.e. longer than the 90 days allowed for tourists. If you're residing in France you should be able to apply there for your visa. Once here you go to the commune/gemeinde where you will be living and fill in the form for your permit - take your employement contract along with you as they'll need it to match up with the application. In a few weeks you'll get your permit in the post, along with the invoice to cover the costs. As Island Monkey says, because your permit has been approved starting work before you actually have it shouldn't be a problem.

Your employer knows everything they need to know if they've applied for non-EU workers before. There is no residency versus work permit. They are one and the same. But obviously for non-EU's the permission to work has to be granted by the Swiss authorities.

There's more on the whole process here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm...zulassung.html

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm...ensablauf.html
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Thank you so much for your responses.

Information for anyone who ends up following this thread. I visited the Swiss Embassy in Paris, France this morning.

Not only were they super efficient, they were very friendly and I had clear information within 5 minutes.

They confirmed that once the Work Permit had been successfully issued to the Employer, I simply have to take this Authorisation document and come to the Consulate, fill out a Visa D form with a photo and passport and they will issue the visa in my passport within 3 hours. You can actually go to any Swiss Consulate in any country outside Switzerland.

Simple. Efficient.

Thank you!!

Fingers crossed I get the work permit!
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Good news then. Yes, technically you're supposed to go back to your home country to apply for the visa, but in reality can do it at embassy/consulate so long as you're resident in that country. A bit of leeway on the part of the Swiss.

Cross fingers for postive result on the job application.
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Thanks Medea Fleecestealer!

I also thought that i might have to return to my home country, however there was a Brazilian guy collecting his Visa D in the Paris Consulate too, and he is not a French resident! Go the Swiss for being flexible
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Ha ha ha ha! Don't be getting used to that! It's a one in a million event!
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

I am also waiting for the aproval of my work permit request in Zurich (sent by my employer). I am Canadian and at the moment working at EPFL as a postdoc.

Does anyone (non-EU) have experience to share about the process time to get the cantonal and federal apporval for a work permit in Zurich?
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

I have heard minimum 4 weeks for Canton and then 2-4 weeks Federal but my employer said that they have spoken to the authorities and they expect a work permit within a month. Not sure who is right. Good luck!
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Here is my own case: Application sent to Canton (Zurich) beginning of Jan. 2014. After about 4 weeks, canton authoroties are now asking for additional proof that the company has searched enough in CH and in EU. Additional information from the company has been sent this week.
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Thanks for sharing Post Doc. I would be interested in knowing how your process goes, and I would be happy to post updates when i know more about my application, so that we could help each other (moral support)

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Thanks for sharing Post Doc. I would be interested in knowing how your process goes, and I would be happy to post updates when i know more about my application, so that we could help each other (moral support)

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Cheers
I will keep you posted.

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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Hello, I am from Brazil and in the work permit process (Vaud). The company sent the request to the canton on the 4th february and still no news.

The information on the swiss consulates web page is contradictory. First they say you need to apply for a Visa at the same time the company applies for the work permit, and then when you click on the documents necessary to request the visa, they say you need to wait the answer from Switzerland, approving the work permit (Authorization Letter).

I called several consulates and they confirmed you need to wait until your work permit is approved in CH and then apply for the Visa.

It would be nice if you guys post when you have a "pre-approval" from the Canton, this can give us idea of timming.
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Hello, just an update. Just received approval from the Canton. It took just above 2 weeks for the approval. Company is saying it will take another 2 weeks for the federal approval. How about you guys?
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Hello, just an update. Just received approval from the Canton. It took just above 2 weeks for the approval. Company is saying it will take another 2 weeks for the federal approval. How about you guys?
Wow! That is fast :-) Good for you. No news for me after almost 2 months (Canton Zurich).
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

Hello, just another update, got the work permit approval from Federal Office. Now waiting for the Visa Authorization letter.
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Hello, just another update, got the work permit approval from Federal Office. Now waiting for the Visa Authorization letter.
Wow!Congratulation!It took roughly 2 months. I hope mine will be also that fast!but i don't know yet,when does my Employer applied for my permit. As of their last email, they applied first for something arbeitsmarktaufsicht to prove that no one from switzerland or EU can be hired..

My problem now is i am not yet talking with my current employer as to when should be the effectivity date of my resignation,since i dont know exactly when i will receive the permit. And whether i should need to return to my home country to get the Visa. I am already here in Germany and doing a freiwilliges soziales jahr or volunteer works and i have a limited type of permit here in germany. I got this job offer in Canton Valais last week only and expecting to begin in june.
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Re: Work Permit, Visa D, Resident Permit Process Non-EU

I finally got the approval from the Federal office this week :-) So to summarize:

1. Application sent to AWA in Zurich on Jan 9 (through my company).
2. Additional information sent to AWA on Jan. 27 (my company).
3. File forwarded to BFM on March 11 (in fact this was delayed only because the person responsible for the file was on leave and it seems that the permit request was left untouched until my employer asked AWA for the result and then it was done in 1 day: SWITZERLAND!)

Hope this gives an idea to people (non-EU) who are waiting for their permit like I was! Mine took 11 weeks in total!!
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